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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:48 pm
Kerozine Kerozine: With the exception of dissent from certain MPs in the LPC and one very inconsistent NDP supporter on these forums, yes. give it up latest polls show the Liberal and NDP support has dropped over their coalition nonsense.
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Brenda
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:55 pm
Kerozine Kerozine: Brenda Brenda: Kerozine Kerozine: It means the same thing, doofus. How is that? The coalition represents 3 out of 4 sitting political parties. You are left with the minority CPC government. How can a coalition of NDP/Libs/Bloc take over? It is complete nonsense, and it doesn't represent the Canadians voters. ANY political party could join "the coalition". I wonder how come no one has been thinking of forming a "coalition" with the CPC... It makes as much sense as this coalition.
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:03 pm
mtbr since you are a separatist, then you should not care for Canada anymore. 
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:09 pm
Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski: mtbr since you are a separatist, then you should not care for Canada anymore.  I am a Separatist. not really I just like to pretend , just like they do in Quebec 
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:22 pm
mtbr mtbr: Holy shit, were did they learn to count. It was packed down there! There must have been a couple thousand at least if not more. It was a better turn out than the red mile when the Flames all most won.
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:26 pm
mtbr mtbr: Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski: mtbr since you are a separatist, then you should not care for Canada anymore.  I am a Separatist. not really I just like to pretend , just like they do in Quebec  Only joking. Quebec separatists are pretenders too. 
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:28 pm
mtbr mtbr: Kerozine Kerozine: With the exception of dissent from certain MPs in the LPC and one very inconsistent NDP supporter on these forums, yes. give it up latest polls show the Liberal and NDP support has dropped over their coalition nonsense. I wouldn't be surprised, what with Harper's prorogation of Parliament to avoid an obvious loss in Monday's vote of confidence. A first in Canadian/Commonwealth Parliamentary history. I'm expecting another federal election in the next few months.
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CommanderSock
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:30 pm
This is the nonsense that prompted France to switch to the current presidential format.
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:45 pm
Brenda Brenda: How is that?
How can a coalition of NDP/Libs/Bloc take over?
It is complete nonsense, and it doesn't represent the Canadians voters. ANY political party could join "the coalition". I wonder how come no one has been thinking of forming a "coalition" with the CPC... It makes as much sense as this coalition. $1: co⋅a⋅li⋅tion
1. a combination or alliance, esp. a temporary one between persons, factions, states, etc. 2. a union into one body or mass; fusion.
It means that these three political parties will find common ground on which to address certain issues on. Right now the most important issue would be the economy and their willingness to work together is what appeals to me the most, although I am left-leaning politically (NDP). The CPC so far has only penny-pinched on minor issues instead of addressing the grave concerns that Canadians have for this economic crisis. Minor issues, which ranged from cutting arts funding (~40M$), the public funding of political parties (~30M$), a motion to bar public servants from striking, etc. Notice that these have all been issues that strike right down to any persons' fundamental beliefs. They've only shown how far they would go to remain in power, by shutting down Parliament for two fucking months.
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Brenda
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:57 pm
Kerozine Kerozine: Brenda Brenda: How is that?
How can a coalition of NDP/Libs/Bloc take over?
It is complete nonsense, and it doesn't represent the Canadians voters. ANY political party could join "the coalition". I wonder how come no one has been thinking of forming a "coalition" with the CPC... It makes as much sense as this coalition. $1: co⋅a⋅li⋅tion
1. a combination or alliance, esp. a temporary one between persons, factions, states, etc. 2. a union into one body or mass; fusion.
It means that these three political parties will find common ground on which to address certain issues on. Right now the most important issue would be the economy and their willingness to work together is what appeals to me the most, although I am left-leaning politically (NDP). The CPC so far has only penny-pinched on minor issues instead of addressing the grave concerns that Canadians have for this economic crisis. Minor issues, which ranged from cutting arts funding (~40M$), the public funding of political parties (~30M$), a motion to bar public servants from striking, etc. Notice that these have all been issues that strike right down to any persons' fundamental beliefs. They've only shown how far they would go to remain in power, by shutting down Parliament for two fucking months. Yeah, smartypants, I know what a coalition is and how it works. But, you tell me, shouldn't it be the winning party that forms the coalition? And not the oposition, and take over? Is that democratic? How can a Quebec seperatist party form a coalition with political parties that have a COMPLETE different view, and expect to be taken seriously? Isn't the winning party (the CPC, if I followed the news correctly) supposed to deliver the PM? Or am I totally off track now?
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:16 pm
Kerozine Kerozine: It means that these three political parties will find common ground on which to address certain issues on. Right now the most important issue would be the economy and their willingness to work together is what appeals to me the most, although I am left-leaning politically (NDP).
The CPC so far has only penny-pinched on minor issues instead of addressing the grave concerns that Canadians have for this economic crisis. Minor issues, which ranged from cutting arts funding (~40M$), the public funding of political parties (~30M$), a motion to bar public servants from striking, etc. First off, any stimulus package that comes out from the Candian government that precedes the US anouncment of their intentions will most likely be doomed to failure. North America for the purpose of it's economics is inherently linked and Canada far too small to make an impact by itself. We need to wait until the beginning of January to find out which dirrection the US is going to take in order to best target and stimulus packages so for Jack and his gang to stand there saying their going to blindly spend 30 billion dollars which they don't have on a stimulus package with no spending plan is next to insanity. Did Jack tell you how much of this package he's going to spend and where he's going to spend it? The answer to that is no because he doesn't know himself yet. Kerozine Kerozine: They've only shown how far they would go to remain in power, by shutting down Parliament for two fucking months. So you're bitching that they're shutting down Parliment because why? You think it's better to plunge head first into an economic crisis lead by a untested and unstable coalition which has yet to lay out any policies or platform? Oh and on the power thing, it really is the hieght of hypocracy for someone who supports a group of 3 leaders who before this never would have stood a snowballs chance in hell of ever being PM or forming a government to talk about "holding onto power".
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:24 pm
mtbr mtbr: Thx for the coverage mt. We wouldn't want to rely on the national media to tell the real story.
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:31 pm
Kerozine Kerozine: With the exception of dissent from certain MPs in the LPC and one very inconsistent NDP supporter on these forums, yes. So you're saying only 5 or 6 Liberals and NDP supporters are against the coalition? Wow. I didn't know Party Whips worked with the party supporters too
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:32 pm
$1: But defenders of the coalition cause were not the only people voicing their opinions Saturday. In fact, their events appeared to be dwarfed by a series of anti-coalition protests staged in cities across the country, including Vancouver, Halifax, Fredericton, Calgary and Ottawa. from the CBC website http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/12/ ... llies.html
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:34 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: $1: But defenders of the coalition cause were not the only people voicing their opinions Saturday. In fact, their events appeared to be dwarfed by a series of anti-coalition protests staged in cities across the country, including Vancouver, Halifax, Fredericton, Calgary and Ottawa. from the CBC website I checked the CTV website when I got home and they had reported hundreds in Calgary. I see they changed their mind , it now says thousands. Guess which pic I emailed to the CBC 
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