Now you dig up a decent one, but in the face of the blizzard of anti-Harper posts you've made already you've lessened the value of it to many of the people here.
Both these articles, coming from a foreign press carry a million times more weight to an undecided voter than anything you've previously posted. Pick and choose, YOU are not a journalist. To the hardcore, these mean nothing. They'll deride the paper as leftwing or MSM or whatever they've brainwashed themselves into.
andyt
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Thanos Thanos:
Here he's a minority. In other places he's typical of a majority of commenters. I won't underestimate their numbers and other Canadians of the moderate/conservative streak shouldn't either.
No, as we know, Harperites are in the minority and only win power because of the split between center and left. But you're not really acting any different than Lothian here, except to spit your venom at people on the left instead of the leaders the way lothian is. And note what other posters here consistently spew about anybody that's not on the right. The hatred that conservatives show is no different than what the lefties do.
Thanos
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andyt andyt:
Thanos Thanos:
Here he's a minority. In other places he's typical of a majority of commenters. I won't underestimate their numbers and other Canadians of the moderate/conservative streak shouldn't either.
No, as we know, Harperites are in the minority and only win power because of the split between center and left. But you're not really acting any different than Lothian here, except to spit your venom at people on the left instead of the leaders the way lothian is. And note what other posters here consistently spew about anybody that's not on the right. The hatred that conservatives show is no different than what the lefties do.
You really need to go to other places than CKA to see what's being said out there. CKA's a tiny place with a small handful of participants. Others, like CBC, have thousands and most of them say far worst things than anything that gets said here. The talk on the left has two dominant strains. The first is about the total destruction of Harper. The second, and far more disturbing, are the calls for nothing but revenge, almost along the lines of what happened in 1920's Germany with the insanity of the dolchstosslegende, against areas of the country that voted Conservative. Like I said elsewhere, Linda McQuaig really only made the mistake of saying out loud what Tom Mulcair and the vast majority of the Canadian left also believe in, that entire areas and provinces will have to be economically shut down in order to meet current NDP dogma. I'm not making this stuff up for laughs and that's because it genuinely scares the hell out of me. What I see now coming from supporters of the federal NDP is far worse today than the things they thought up during the far-more friendly-to-socialism days of the 1930's or the 1960's.
andyt
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I don't take CKA as representing Canada, I don't take other websites either. This is just goofing around.
Thanos
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I disagree. I think the likes of the CBC comment section perfectly encapsulates the mentality of the Canadian left and, to a huge degree, the dominant attitude of the Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal corridor towards the rest of the country. I take it in large part that what the Saudis are doing with the price of oil is them merely saying that they're still the bosses of the entire system. I think that the way the Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal axis is tilting politically right now is basically the same thing, in that they're more than willing to impose a left-wing government on the entire country just to show every other part of the nation that they are still in control of everyone else and always will be.
andyt
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BTW, Vancouver Sun today had an article how the Govt is all slathering to sell weapons to SA because there's a regime change happening there and SA will be more pro human rights, and how SA is a beacon of stability in the region. Riiiight.
The NDP is certainly the best party to resist that particular sort of bullshit.
Thanos
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:33 pm
No, the federal NDP would merely shift the weapons sales to Hamas and Hezbollah.
BTW, I've never supported anything the Canadian government has done in relation to Saudi Arabia, not for what they did with the Wheat Board or these weapons sales to the evil bastards.
andyt
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:36 pm
Hamas aint' got the kind of money to buy serious weapons.
CountLothian
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:55 pm
Unsound Unsound:
edit: I took too long to post. It should be obvious this is directed at Lothian, but in case it's not obvious... it's directed at Lothian.
$1:
The problem is that you're not a real person. You show up just in time for the election and spend all your time spewing partisan talking points and posting partisan articles.
To some of the guests and to people that know me over at bungholevilleCC , they know who I am and a very real person. I can't believe I actually answered such an inane attempt at negating me. I was here before, it's an internet stop for me. I choose places where i know I'm not and never will be accepted and then toss stuff out and see what happens.
$1:
THe rest of us, partisan as we might get at times especially elections, are real people who have complete identities here. We talk about music or tv. We make fun of each other's spelling. We have relationships.
Yeah it's a barrel of laughs.
$1:
You're an advertisement. Spam.
Only if you need me to be. Ask yourself why you gat angry at me. My stuff is not some made up recipe , it's whats being talked about across Canada on many different mediums, even real life as you like to think this is.
No one acts like you people in real life, or more to the point what you people have become,in real life.
$1:
Spend some time on the boards talking about anything at all besides how evil terrible not very good at all Harper is, and maybe we'll take you more seriously.
Why would i want a bunch of brain washed uber partisan conservative logo totin interent people to take me seriously. You won't allow yourselves to take anything I post seriously , even if it is the UK Guardian or NY TIMES, that printed pretty much what I have been spewing out here for weeks.
$1:
And btw I'm not brainwashed. I'm well aware of many of the criticisms of Harper. Some I have time for, some I don't. Same as with all the other parties and leaders. But I'll make up my mind based on my own research and discussion with people who's opinions I respect.
The problem with you people is you think I hope to change you, or something. I know what you are and it was never my intention. But you people want to change people . Like your post here reaching out to some part of me you think exists due to your own engrained paradigm of living the dream of the masses. Take a side live with it no matter what and keep the blinders on.
PublicAnimalNo9
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:25 pm
herbie herbie:
Now you dig up a decent one, but in the face of the blizzard of anti-Harper posts you've made already you've lessened the value of it to many of the people here.
Both these articles, coming from a foreign press carry a million times more weight to an undecided voter than anything you've previously posted. Pick and choose, YOU are not a journalist. To the hardcore, these mean nothing. They'll deride the paper as leftwing or MSM or whatever they've brainwashed themselves into.
Uh yeah. This is the SAME NY Times that still insists we club baby seals and strip them of their fur while still alive. The same NY Times that thought it had the right to invade people's privacy by publishing the names and addresses of legal gun owners in the city.
In fact over the last decade the NY Times has engaged in some pretty egregious abuses of the public trust. Of course they are far from the only ones anymore. The CBC at least twice in the last two weeks has passed off advertising as "news" stories. Media outlets from both sides of the political spectrum in Canada and the US are guilty of selective editing, outright lies, and leaving out details, if not outright ignoring events that run counter to the narratives each side tries to push. It ain't news anymore, it's propaganda. Only it's not govt propaganda, it's propaganda by some fucking worthless ideologues who have a very singular world view.
Freakinoldguy
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:57 pm
CountLothian CountLothian:
I was here before, it's an internet stop for me. I choose places where i know I'm not and never will be accepted and then toss stuff out and see what happens.
So, by your own admission you're nothing but a partisan troll only interested in causing trouble.
Congratulations, you've finally become a success.
CountLothian
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:05 pm
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
CountLothian CountLothian:
I was here before, it's an internet stop for me. I choose places where i know I'm not and never will be accepted and then toss stuff out and see what happens.
So, by your own admission you're nothing but a partisan troll only interested in causing trouble.
Congratulations, you've finally become a success.
Read it at face value. This is not my home but yours. I respect that and am honest about it. Where am I trolling, again you have to negate me somehow . I have not trolled here at all.
All the older forums of this genre have turned into small little cliques of people,not really the top of the heap but just left overs.
It's not even funny half the time just welded out frustration.
herbie
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:04 am
$1:
To the hardcore, these mean nothing. They'll deride the paper as leftwing or MSM or whatever they've brainwashed themselves into.
See how that works.
Zipperfish
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:52 am
Thanos Thanos:
I disagree. I think the likes of the CBC comment section perfectly encapsulates the mentality of the Canadian left and, to a huge degree, the dominant attitude of the Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal corridor towards the rest of the country. I take it in large part that what the Saudis are doing with the price of oil is them merely saying that they're still the bosses of the entire system. I think that the way the Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal axis is tilting politically right now is basically the same thing, in that they're more than willing to impose a left-wing government on the entire country just to show every other part of the nation that they are still in control of everyone else and always will be.
No the comments section is full of crazy people. I think the tendency is for people to find the most rabid post or most vitriolic blog and use that as representative.
We are in for a minority government, anyways, it looks like. Not a bad thing, in my opinion.
martin14
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:24 am
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
No the comments section is full of crazy people. I think the tendency is for people to find the most rabid post or most vitriolic blog and use that as representative.
We are in for a minority government, anyways, it looks like. Not a bad thing, in my opinion.
At the beginning of what looks like a fairly serious recession ?
It's the worst idea possible.
Right or left, the economy goes up and down. sometimes more spend and more gov't, sometimes less.
A minority government can give you both at the same time, and just exacerbate a bad situation.