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Reverend Blair
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:11 pm
Last I checked Harper gave way more corporate tax cuts than personal tax cuts. Those people who don't pay income tax don't buy a lot of things there's GST on either, BTW. They can't afford it. Not to mention that every party but Harper's had and has plans for giving them extra assistance.
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:16 pm
So your admitting that income tax cuts do nothing to help low income families.
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Reverend Blair
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:18 pm
It depends a lot on the family, Apollo. Real parties...those that understand their job is to help the Canadian people...have programs to help those who fall below that line though. The Harperites offer nothing.
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:31 pm
Harper has helped my "average" family immesely. I get $2,400 per year for my kids. I saved a bundle in GST from my home and car purchase over the past 2 years.
I can't be alone considering Harper is in majority territory at the moment.
Where's the NDP? Around their usual 15%? Either they are out of touch or Canadians are slightly left, not radical left wing.
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Reverend Blair
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:41 pm
Well, Harper managed to raise my taxes, and I never saved SFA on the GST because the corporations raised their rates as soon as Harper dropped the tax. The high Canadian dollar hurt me too, since a lot of my clients are in the US.
The cuts to daycare hurt a lot of people I know because you can't keep a kid in daycare for $1200 a year...then there's the matter of Harper taxing that back.
Cuts to women's programs, science programs, and the arts have thrown people out of work. Of course Harper has done nothing to fix EI, so they can't even fall back on that very much.
You have three parties in the House of Commons that together outnumber the Conservatives. Harper used to scream like bastard when Martin didn't follow the will of Parliament, but once he became PM he not only ignored parliament, but his own MPs.
He won't be getting a majority, and he certainly won't be getting 50% of the popular vote. Personally I doubt he'll even win the election.
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:50 pm
Most of your post is just partisan rhetoric. On one post you hate Harper for spending like a "drunken sailor" and on another post you hate him for cutting spending. Just admit that you are a partisan hack and we can move on.
It doesn't matter whether you think Harper will win or whether he will get a majority. I'm sure you were convinced that we wasn'g going to win last time yet here we are debating on whether or not he is going to get a second term.
Four years from now, I look forward to debating with you on whether or not he will get his second majority in a row.
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Reverend Blair
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:01 pm
He does spend like a drunken sailor...stupidly, on things that offer little or no value for the money. He cuts the things that do have value so he can pay for his stupid spending.
Why don't you admit that you're just another partisan hack and move on yourself.
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:56 pm
Some folks have bought into rightwing science, err, I mean thought, errr, I mean religion.
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:21 pm
11coftea 11coftea: Some folks have bought into rightwing science, err, I mean thought, errr, I mean religion. The last time I checked, freedom of religion was a right in Canada. Except when the left is involved obviously. Many call GW leftwing science too.
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Reverend Blair
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:08 pm
The last I checked the freedom of religion stopped short of imposing those beliefs on others, Apollo. So you can believe in invisible men in the sky, talking snakes, and even the rapture if you want. You cannot force others to believe those things though, and you cannot use your beliefs to deny others their rights.
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:06 pm
Reverend Blair Reverend Blair: The last I checked the freedom of religion stopped short of imposing those beliefs on others, Apollo. So you can believe in invisible men in the sky, talking snakes, and even the rapture if you want. You cannot force others to believe those things though, and you cannot use your beliefs to deny others their rights. Where are the Conservatives forcing religion on others? The left has made religion into some sort of evil to be ridiculed just as you have done. I'm not even religious and I'm offended by your prejudice. Speaking of invisible beings, how's global warming working out for ya? Is the left not forcing their beliefs on everyone else and for those that don't cow tow the Dion/Suzuki line are labelled as heratics?
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Reverend Blair
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:37 am
Science is what defines global warming. You may not be capable of understanding the difference between science and religion, Apollo, but smart people are and they don't consider it a left/right issue.
The Conservatives have pushed their religion-based social conservatism through tax law, a partial-birth abortion law just like the ones used to limit women's rights in the US, cuts to arts programs, putting fundamentalists on science ethics panels, changing the way judges are chosen, putting right-wing judges on the bench, and dozens of other things.
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:21 am
Reverend Blair Reverend Blair: Science is what defines global warming. You may not be capable of understanding the difference between science and religion, Apollo, but smart people are and they don't consider it a left/right issue.
The Conservatives have pushed their religion-based social conservatism through tax law, a partial-birth abortion law just like the ones used to limit women's rights in the US, cuts to arts programs, putting fundamentalists on science ethics panels, changing the way judges are chosen, putting right-wing judges on the bench, and dozens of other things. Science is non debatable. Gravity is non debatable. Man made Global warming is being debated daily which proves that the jury is still out on the issue. The rest of your post is just partisan drivel. Liberals appoint left wing judges, Conservatives appoint right wing judges. What exactly is your point?
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Reverend Blair
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:26 am
Global warming theory is based on solid science, Apollo. The denialists are no better than, and use many of the same tactics as, creationists to give the illusion of there being a valid debate.
Every post you've made is partisan drivel and you haven't been able to refute valid points. Harper is, slowly but surely, imposing the puritanical religious beliefs of the fundamentalist right through his legislation.
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:36 am
If it was based on solid science then why are so many refuting those findings? Why has the earth not warmed in 10 years? Why are they finding the remains of villages under miles of glaciers in Greenland?
Science tells us that the earth warms and cools all the time. Gore science tells us that now it's not normal even though it has been happening for millions of years.
What happened to the centrepiece of the global warming movement? The infamous hockey stick theory. Oh yeah, THAT science ended up being wrong. Perhaps this round of science is the "solid science" of which you speak.
That is of course until they prove that wrong and your ilk will present a new round of "solid science" to parade to the followers.
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