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Blahgzilla
Junior Member
Posts: 86
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:20 am
October 14 I'd Love To Be Saying "Four More Years", But It'll Do Photo Courtesy The Fine Folks At MSNBC Stephen Harper didn't win a majority tonight, but he gained some ground in the battle for one, picking up an additional 24 seats from before. With 144 seats as of the time this is written, the Conservatives are now only 11 seats shy of control of parliament. A good chunk of those 24 extra seats come from vote rich Ontario, where the Conservatives have been campaigning heavily, and at the expense of the Liberals and the NDP. Danny Williams however, convinced the folks in Newfoundland to send a message to the Conservatives and Stephen harper by shutting them out entirely. As for Stephane Dion, the future isn't quite as promising as the Prime Minister's. Having lost 24 seats, it is certain that the knives are being sharpened, and the likes of Ignatief and Rae will begin assembling their troops for the upcoming leadership race of the Liberal Party. While it remains to be seen who will emerge the victor of the pinko pageant, what is certain is that the new leader will have his work cut out for him. He (or she) will be saddled with waning support in Quebec, and unable to raise funds from it's previous benefactors (corporate Canada), it will be an uphill battle.
Smilin' Jack Layton and his NDP comrades picked up 8 seats, again mostly at the expense of French Toast. Enough to keep Jack smilin' at the helm of the NDP.
Elizabeth May and the granola crowd managed to pick up an additional quarter million votes, most i'm sure coming from disaffected Liberals. Despite the increase, it still did not result in any seats in the house. Now, I can only hope that if she's still around for the next vote, the networks tell her she's not invited to the debates, PERIOD.You're both pinkos.
In terms of the numbers, the liberals received over 1 million less votes this time than in 2006. In fact the numbers were down sharply for all parties save the Greenies. If the figures bear up, nearly 1.4 million fewer Canadians voted in this election. This would suggest that many Liberals just stayed home rather than place in confidence in Stephane Dion by voting Liberal (God only knows they wouldn't vote Conservative). Yet another nail in Mr.Dion's political coffin.
In a trend of deepening apathy, only 58.3% of Canadians bother to vote, down from almost 65% in 2006. Sad people, sad. Just do us all a favour those of you who didn't vote, and remember that you have no right to bitch about the way things are going if you didn't. It would appear that the various tactics of the lefties, ie vote swapping, have failed miserably. I'm not surprised. They were impractical and relied on the co-operation of a less than motivated electorate.
Let's also watch for the corresponding bounce by the TSX reflecting the results, while also being mindful of the activity in the markets so far this week. Stay tuned. Lets also watch for news that the Canada will be able to ride the storm of the forecast world-wide recession, thanks largely to our resource-rich economy, and the stability of the Canadian banking and financial sector.
All this being said, I wish our Prime Minister well, and trust that he is the man to lead us through troubled times. Next time though, I really would like to be shouting "Four More Years!".
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smorgdonkey
Active Member
Posts: 480
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:49 am
That's bizarre. You are happy that we (as in 'Canadians', so...you) spent $300 million so that a few more seats would be held by the government. $16 million per seat was spent and all after Harper wanted specific election times then called one a year early. Interesting and bizarre at the same time.
The drop in voter turnout is in my opinion voter disgust. Harper got in singing the song of accountability and has done what every previous administration has done-not held up his end of the bargain. People are beyond getting angry enough to vote someone out because they feel that one crook will be replaced by another. I wasn't too keen on Harper when he was elected but I said "I hope..." and "maybe he will..." but he didn't.
Many of the people who don't vote anymore say that it isn't the act of voting that gives them the right to complain - it is the act of paying taxes. They say "why vote someone in who will not serve better" and that "voting in a dictatorship which ignores the wants and the voices of the people" is something that they cannot participate in so abstaining is their protest.
So...I can't understand why people voted for the Conservatives under Harper's leadership but he won so you will all get to enjoy that to what ever level that you enjoy it. If you are a middle or low income earner though, I suggest that you may have to taste your own bitter pill before Harper's term is over.
So...without the 'spin' that is all over your post and with a clear head, tell me something good about the Prime Minister. I am a very unbiased sort of person and I just don't see the attraction.
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hwacker
CKA Uber
Posts: 10896
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:01 am
smorgdonkey smorgdonkey: That's bizarre. You are happy that we (as in 'Canadians', so...you) spent $300 million so that a few more seats would be held by the government. $16 million per seat was spent and all after Harper wanted specific election times then called one a year early. Interesting and bizarre at the same time.
The drop in voter turnout is in my opinion voter disgust. Harper got in singing the song of accountability and has done what every previous administration has done-not held up his end of the bargain. People are beyond getting angry enough to vote someone out because they feel that one crook will be replaced by another. I wasn't too keen on Harper when he was elected but I said "I hope..." and "maybe he will..." but he didn't.
Many of the people who don't vote anymore say that it isn't the act of voting that gives them the right to complain - it is the act of paying taxes. They say "why vote someone in who will not serve better" and that "voting in a dictatorship which ignores the wants and the voices of the people" is something that they cannot participate in so abstaining is their protest.
So...I can't understand why people voted for the Conservatives under Harper's leadership but he won so you will all get to enjoy that to what ever level that you enjoy it. If you are a middle or low income earner though, I suggest that you may have to taste your own bitter pill before Harper's term is over. So...without the 'spin' that is all over your post and with a clear head, tell me something good about the Prime Minister. I am a very unbiased sort of person and I just don't see the attraction. Sure you are, how was it putting your X beside a doofus?
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smorgdonkey
Active Member
Posts: 480
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:06 am
hwacker hwacker: Sure you are, how was it putting your X beside a doofus? Very 15 year old of you. Congratulations. First of all, you have no idea whose name I put an X beside so how would you know what that person was like much less whether they were a 'doofus' or not? Jumping to conclusions and internet bravado...so impressive!!
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Blahgzilla
Junior Member
Posts: 86
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:10 am
smorgdonkey smorgdonkey: That's bizarre. You are happy that we (as in 'Canadians', so...you) spent $300 million so that a few more seats would be held by the government. $16 million per seat was spent and all after Harper wanted specific election times then called one a year early. Interesting and bizarre at the same time.
The drop in voter turnout is in my opinion voter disgust. Harper got in singing the song of accountability and has done what every previous administration has done-not held up his end of the bargain. People are beyond getting angry enough to vote someone out because they feel that one crook will be replaced by another. I wasn't too keen on Harper when he was elected but I said "I hope..." and "maybe he will..." but he didn't.
Many of the people who don't vote anymore say that it isn't the act of voting that gives them the right to complain - it is the act of paying taxes. They say "why vote someone in who will not serve better" and that "voting in a dictatorship which ignores the wants and the voices of the people" is something that they cannot participate in so abstaining is their protest.
So...I can't understand why people voted for the Conservatives under Harper's leadership but he won so you will all get to enjoy that to what ever level that you enjoy it. If you are a middle or low income earner though, I suggest that you may have to taste your own bitter pill before Harper's term is over.
So...without the 'spin' that is all over your post and with a clear head, tell me something good about the Prime Minister. I am a very unbiased sort of person and I just don't see the attraction. My thoughts on the PM are based on his party platform, his leadership to date, as well as my belief that he has the leadership qualities and views on Canada's role in the world to be able to guide this country. How about you? What's so not great about the PM?
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Posts: 15102
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:10 am
I put my x beside a Dick.
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smorgdonkey
Active Member
Posts: 480
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:19 am
Blahgzilla Blahgzilla: My thoughts on the PM are based on his party platform, his leadership to date, as well as my belief that he has the leadership qualities and views on Canada's role in the world to be able to guide this country.
How about you? What's so not great about the PM? I suppose you could check the thread I posted when I joined this forum: federal-elections-f43/i-can-understand-an-undecided-voter-t67199.htmlIt definitely illustrates how I feel about Harper and my confusion surrounding how people can respect him/admire him/trust him. If his actions weren't as they have been then I would be fine with him regardless of what Party he was in. I have voted for people under 3 different party banners in my voting history. Never for a Conservative however because when I became 'of age to vote' it was Mulroney's party and we are still digging out from that mess.
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Posts: 15102
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:24 am
smorgdonkey smorgdonkey: Never for a Conservative however because when I became 'of age to vote' it was Mulroney's party and we are still digging out from that mess. ![huh? [huh]](./images/smilies/icon_scratch.gif)
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Blahgzilla
Junior Member
Posts: 86
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:36 am
smorgdonkey smorgdonkey: Blahgzilla Blahgzilla: My thoughts on the PM are based on his party platform, his leadership to date, as well as my belief that he has the leadership qualities and views on Canada's role in the world to be able to guide this country.
How about you? What's so not great about the PM? I suppose you could check the thread I posted when I joined this forum: federal-elections-f43/i-can-understand-an-undecided-voter-t67199.htmlIt definitely illustrates how I feel about Harper and my confusion surrounding how people can respect him/admire him/trust him. If his actions weren't as they have been then I would be fine with him regardless of what Party he was in. I have voted for people under 3 different party banners in my voting history. Never for a Conservative however because when I became 'of age to vote' it was Mulroney's party and we are still digging out from that mess. Okay, Democracy Watch, that explains it. You don't really prefer any of the candidates because the system itself is fundamentally wrong. I guess given the your organization, I would assume you did not even vote then?
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smorgdonkey
Active Member
Posts: 480
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:22 am
RUEZ RUEZ: smorgdonkey smorgdonkey: Never for a Conservative however because when I became 'of age to vote' it was Mulroney's party and we are still digging out from that mess. ![huh? [huh]](./images/smilies/icon_scratch.gif) ...are you suggesting that you don't know who Mulroney is? -NAFTA -GST -Meech Lake -backbreaking taxes in tough economic times -taking money for the Airbus deal then lying in court and getting money from taxpayers in a settlement -appointed to a hotshot job by Harper Jog your memory at all?
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Posts: 21665
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:26 am
hwacker hwacker:
Sure you are, how was it putting your X beside a doofus?
Well, not too bad considering my only choice was one of five doofuses. 
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smorgdonkey
Active Member
Posts: 480
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:27 am
Blahgzilla Blahgzilla: Okay, Democracy Watch, that explains it. You don't really prefer any of the candidates because the system itself is fundamentally wrong. I guess given the your organization, I would assume you did not even vote then? That's not 'my organization'...it was just a link referencing Harper's accountability that he went on and on about prior to being elected the first time. ...and I definitely did vote. I'm proud to say that I haven't worn blinders for the past few years either so I certainly couldn't in good conscience vote for the Harper government.
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Posts: 3329
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:28 am
Doofus is a funny word.
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Blahgzilla
Junior Member
Posts: 86
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:30 pm
smorgdonkey smorgdonkey: Blahgzilla Blahgzilla: Okay, Democracy Watch, that explains it. You don't really prefer any of the candidates because the system itself is fundamentally wrong. I guess given the your organization, I would assume you did not even vote then? That's not 'my organization'...it was just a link referencing Harper's accountability that he went on and on about prior to being elected the first time. ...and I definitely did vote. I'm proud to say that I haven't worn blinders for the past few years either so I certainly couldn't in good conscience vote for the Harper government. As is your right.
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Posts: 15681
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:56 pm
smorgdonkey smorgdonkey: Blahgzilla Blahgzilla: Okay, Democracy Watch, that explains it. You don't really prefer any of the candidates because the system itself is fundamentally wrong. I guess given the your organization, I would assume you did not even vote then? That's not 'my organization'...it was just a link referencing Harper's accountability that he went on and on about prior to being elected the first time. ...and I definitely did vote. I'm proud to say that I haven't worn blinders for the past few years either so I certainly couldn't in good conscience vote for the Harper government. But despite that they got in again eh?
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