[faile]

Chumley Chumley:

I wonder if politician should be a trade/profession?
You can't participate in politics unless you have completed courses in politics.

No. They'd end up being indoctrinated by the professor du jour (usually liberal).

[Chumley]

So what if you could set it up so that it wasn't lopsided?
To get your political trade certification, you would have to take and pass classes from an assortment of different political ideals taught by people who follow that political branch.

[roger-roger]

Why not have several different schools, they call have basic requirements for certification. Of course that would defeat the idea that anyone can represent their peers.

[Chumley]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

Why not have several different schools, they call have basic requirements for certification. Of course that would defeat the idea that anyone can represent their peers.

Well, several different schools representing only one school of thought would bias the students towards that school only.
People would be enrolled in whatever school they have already been predisposed to back, whether from thier parents influence or thier own preconcieved ideas. If they all were to take classes in all the political philosophies and had to be able to defend the position of that philosophy to pass, perhaps they could come to thier own conclusions as to what party they would join.

[Chumley]

Come to think of it, maybe this should be mandatory for high school.

[Reverend Blair]

I think poli-sci students belong in the back rooms, Eisensapper. That's where they are most effective, no matter which party they are in. Also they tend to be insufferable little pricks with little humour and limited attention spans. Not exactly the qualities you look for when you need to jam somebody in front of a camera.

[roger-roger]

[Chumley]

Reverend Blair Reverend Blair:

I think poli-sci students belong in the back rooms, Eisensapper. That's where they are most effective, no matter which party they are in. Also they tend to be insufferable little pricks with little humour and limited attention spans. Not exactly the qualities you look for when you need to jam somebody in front of a camera.

Yeah, not everyone with the right idea has the ability to lead, but it would be like sports and arts. Lots of people want to be the next O.J. Simpson, Courtney Love or Mel Gibson but only a select few get the honour.

[Libralesso]

Chumley Chumley:

Libralesso Libralesso:

Again an older person may have more life experience that does not make them wiser. I know I don't know everything, in fact if you study philosophy you will realize you know nothing. Yet like you said "The older generations are wiser." The older generations know just a little as the younger generations know. No one is wiser than anyone else. What is Socrates' famous quote; "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." A lot of people just don't know that they know nothing. So why not let the younger generations have a bigger voice, we know as little as any of the older generations do. Besides the older generations don't seem to have a good track record behind them at the moment, why not give up some power to younger ideals. We are all in this world together, might as well not patronize each other.

As a group older people are wiser with some that have not gained a lick of wisdom, just as youth as a group tend to be more idealistic with some exceptions.
The younger generation has just as big a voice as anyone else once you hit voting age.
Every generation also says the last generation had a crappy track record. The problem with actually giving power to youth is that youth is full of piss and vinegar, headstrong and idealistic. Youth will lead you over a cliff and say uh-oh on the way down, because the tendency of youth is to push the boundaries of everything sometimes to see what happens and other times because they already think they know what will happen.
The older generation is there to hold you back from that cliff because they either went over it and were lucky enough to survive or watched thier friends plummet to thier doom.
Youth isn't all bad though because that energy is needed to get things done.
Though people say youth is wasted on the young, I sometimes think wisdom is wasted on the old.

Depending on what youth you are talking about, I used to be one of those youth in my teen years. However there are many intelligent youth out there, few between but you could say the same for the older generation. But if you go through the universities, through the political organizations you will find many very bright and not to headstrong and idealistic youth. By youth I refer to anyone below 30. Of course you can not give up full control to the youth, but there is hardly any voice for us in this country. All we are left to do is go to the protests and rallies.

Sorry for the lateness of the reply.

[Chumley]

Libralesso Libralesso:

Chumley Chumley:

Libralesso Libralesso:

Again an older person may have more life experience that does not make them wiser. I know I don't know everything, in fact if you study philosophy you will realize you know nothing. Yet like you said "The older generations are wiser." The older generations know just a little as the younger generations know. No one is wiser than anyone else. What is Socrates' famous quote; "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." A lot of people just don't know that they know nothing. So why not let the younger generations have a bigger voice, we know as little as any of the older generations do. Besides the older generations don't seem to have a good track record behind them at the moment, why not give up some power to younger ideals. We are all in this world together, might as well not patronize each other.

As a group older people are wiser with some that have not gained a lick of wisdom, just as youth as a group tend to be more idealistic with some exceptions.
The younger generation has just as big a voice as anyone else once you hit voting age.
Every generation also says the last generation had a crappy track record. The problem with actually giving power to youth is that youth is full of piss and vinegar, headstrong and idealistic. Youth will lead you over a cliff and say uh-oh on the way down, because the tendency of youth is to push the boundaries of everything sometimes to see what happens and other times because they already think they know what will happen.
The older generation is there to hold you back from that cliff because they either went over it and were lucky enough to survive or watched thier friends plummet to thier doom.
Youth isn't all bad though because that energy is needed to get things done.
Though people say youth is wasted on the young, I sometimes think wisdom is wasted on the old.

Depending on what youth you are talking about, I used to be one of those youth in my teen years. However there are many intelligent youth out there, few between but you could say the same for the older generation. But if you go through the universities, through the political organizations you will find many very bright and not to headstrong and idealistic youth. By youth I refer to anyone below 30. Of course you can not give up full control to the youth, but there is hardly any voice for us in this country. All we are left to do is go to the protests and rallies.

You have a vote. What more voice do you need? Mandatory seats in parliament for teens?

Libralesso Libralesso:

Sorry for the lateness of the reply.

No problem. People here often don't reply for days.

[Chumley]

Libralesso Libralesso:

Chumley Chumley:

Libralesso Libralesso:

Again an older person may have more life experience that does not make them wiser. I know I don't know everything, in fact if you study philosophy you will realize you know nothing. Yet like you said "The older generations are wiser." The older generations know just a little as the younger generations know. No one is wiser than anyone else. What is Socrates' famous quote; "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." A lot of people just don't know that they know nothing. So why not let the younger generations have a bigger voice, we know as little as any of the older generations do. Besides the older generations don't seem to have a good track record behind them at the moment, why not give up some power to younger ideals. We are all in this world together, might as well not patronize each other.

As a group older people are wiser with some that have not gained a lick of wisdom, just as youth as a group tend to be more idealistic with some exceptions.
The younger generation has just as big a voice as anyone else once you hit voting age.
Every generation also says the last generation had a crappy track record. The problem with actually giving power to youth is that youth is full of piss and vinegar, headstrong and idealistic. Youth will lead you over a cliff and say uh-oh on the way down, because the tendency of youth is to push the boundaries of everything sometimes to see what happens and other times because they already think they know what will happen.
The older generation is there to hold you back from that cliff because they either went over it and were lucky enough to survive or watched thier friends plummet to thier doom.
Youth isn't all bad though because that energy is needed to get things done.
Though people say youth is wasted on the young, I sometimes think wisdom is wasted on the old.

Depending on what youth you are talking about, I used to be one of those youth in my teen years. However there are many intelligent youth out there, few between but you could say the same for the older generation. But if you go through the universities, through the political organizations you will find many very bright and not to headstrong and idealistic youth. By youth I refer to anyone below 30. Of course you can not give up full control to the youth, but there is hardly any voice for us in this country. All we are left to do is go to the protests and rallies.

Sorry for the lateness of the reply.

No problem, people sometimes don't reply for days, myself included.
You have a vote, what more do you need?
It isn't just youth that use protests and rallies and being young doesn't prevent you from partipating in politics.
Actually, the best bet for youth is to get other youth involved.
If everyone who turned 18 got involved in politics, it would turn this country upside down.
Mandatory parliamentary seats for teens?

[Libralesso]

No but some politicians who address the concerns of the youth is mainly what I am talking about. There are a lot of the youth in this country (from what I have talked to) that feel the issues that effect them are not being covered. Also to me youth is anything 30 and below. One of the major concerns for us would be environmental policies, which Dion's green shift is not adequate either. Good start but some really good environmental policies. Easier access to universities, financially that is. Like why is OSAP so concerned about your income, its a loan anyways you have to pay it back why are they so stingy. Its not like you get to keep it. Just more concern in the issues that affect us. More funding to the public schools in our country.

[Chumley]

The young need to realize( or be educated to the fact) that the issues covered do concern them.
Financial concerns people have with schooling are always an issue with adults, and though it may not be the main concern surrounding this election, it has been a concern in past ones.
Not every topic will be at the fore front every time.
It isn't just kids worried with this because plenty of parents wonder about how to pay for thier kid's education.
The thing with youth is as a group, if something isn't a major issue within the timeframe into which they became politically aware, they won't see that it has been an issue at all. At least not for a few years anyway.
There have been a lot of battles over the environment and education and they are still ongoing amd will continue to be fought.