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lily lily:

You lookin' for whiskey?

OOh that would be good too.

[RUEZ]

VitaminC VitaminC:

of which? that he is against same sex marriage or that he supported the cops?

Yes there is proof, someone posted a quote or a link about it yesterday but I don't know what thread its in......

being against SSM doesn't autimatically make you a homophobe.

[Tricks]

VitaminC VitaminC:

As for homophobe.....he's against same sex marriage isn't he?

Does not mean he is a homophobe. Homophobes are afraid of gay people.

[Donny_Brasco]

RUEZ RUEZ:

VitaminC VitaminC:

of which? that he is against same sex marriage or that he supported the cops?

Yes there is proof, someone posted a quote or a link about it yesterday but I don't know what thread its in......

being against SSM doesn't autimatically make you a homophobe.

If you wern't afraid of gay people thay wny wouldn't you let two people who love each other get married?

$1:

Peter Kuitenbrouwer
National Post
Tuesday, May 24, 2005
Speaker after speaker vowed to stop the legislation or, if it passes, to target MPs to ensure the next federal government is "pro-marriage."

"There is no such thing as a right to same-sex marriage," said Maurice Vellacott, the Tory MP for Saskatoon-Wanukewin. He compared gays pushing for the right to marry with someone playing a game on ice without a hockey stick and demanding it be called hockey.

Why not let people do what they want? Letting gay people get married will let them be equal citizens and enjoy the rights and benifits of being a married couple.

$1:

Dictionary.com
·mo·pho·bi·a ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hm-fb-)
n.
Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men.
Behavior based on such a feeling.

Want more proof? There's tons of it.

[VitaminC]

Ok, found it.....Here's the link to the entire story....the following are a couple paragraphs out of tghe story...

Vellacott establishes defence fund for ex-cops

Darren Bernhardt, The StarPhoenix, Friday, August 27, 2004

A legal defence fund has been established to help disgraced former city police officers Ken Munson and Dan Hatchen fight to have their case reopened and their names cleared.

But the lawyer for Darrell Night, the aboriginal man whose complaint led to Munson's and Hatchen's 2001 convictions for unlawful confinement, laughed at the notion that the ex-officers were, in their words, seeking justice.

"Perhaps those monies, at the end of the day, can go toward compensating Mr. Night for the trauma that these individuals ultimately were convicted of," said Don Worme.
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"I find it very disappointing that the Reform-Conservative-Alliance would continue to use public money to defend common criminals and foster division in our community. If this is their idea of bridge building it's certainly different than what most right-thinking people would consider."

The list of contributors to the fund to date includes former Saskatoon police chief Dave Scott and his wife, Colleen. Scott was fired in 2001 at the height of allegations that officers were dropping aboriginal people off at the edge of the city in freezing weather.

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Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

RUEZ RUEZ:

VitaminC VitaminC:

of which? that he is against same sex marriage or that he supported the cops?

Yes there is proof, someone posted a quote or a link about it yesterday but I don't know what thread its in......

being against SSM doesn't autimatically make you a homophobe.

If you wern't afraid of gay people thay wny wouldn't you let two people who love each other get married?

$1:

Peter Kuitenbrouwer
National Post
Tuesday, May 24, 2005
Speaker after speaker vowed to stop the legislation or, if it passes, to target MPs to ensure the next federal government is "pro-marriage."

"There is no such thing as a right to same-sex marriage," said Maurice Vellacott, the Tory MP for Saskatoon-Wanukewin. He compared gays pushing for the right to marry with someone playing a game on ice without a hockey stick and demanding it be called hockey.

Why not let people do what they want? Letting gay people get married will let them be equal citizens and enjoy the rights and benifits of being a married couple.

$1:

Dictionary.com
·mo·pho·bi·a ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hm-fb-)
n.
Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men.
Behavior based on such a feeling.

Want more proof? There's tons of it.

That's not proof of anything. I know people who don't want the word marriage used, they have their reasons. They would fully accept a term such as civil union. But saying people against SSM are homophobes, well that's just rediculous. Of course there definately are homophobes against SSM.

[Donny_Brasco]

Night's complaint against Munson and Hatchen was reported nationally and internationally because two other aboriginal men, Lawrence Wegner and Rodney Naistus, were found frozen to death in the same area within days of the Night incident.

Suspicion fell on the Saskatoon police service. The RCMP created a special task force to investigate the deaths of several aboriginal men who may have had contact with police before they died.

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Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

"There is no such thing as a right to same-sex marriage," said Maurice Vellacott, the Tory MP for Saskatoon-Wanukewin. He compared gays pushing for the right to marry with someone playing a game on ice without a hockey stick and demanding it be called hockey.

He's right and it's called ringette. How fitting it's played by girls.

[Tricks]

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

RUEZ RUEZ:

VitaminC VitaminC:

of which? that he is against same sex marriage or that he supported the cops?

Yes there is proof, someone posted a quote or a link about it yesterday but I don't know what thread its in......

being against SSM doesn't autimatically make you a homophobe.

If you wern't afraid of gay people thay wny wouldn't you let two people who love each other get married?

$1:

Peter Kuitenbrouwer
National Post
Tuesday, May 24, 2005
Speaker after speaker vowed to stop the legislation or, if it passes, to target MPs to ensure the next federal government is "pro-marriage."

"There is no such thing as a right to same-sex marriage," said Maurice Vellacott, the Tory MP for Saskatoon-Wanukewin. He compared gays pushing for the right to marry with someone playing a game on ice without a hockey stick and demanding it be called hockey.

Why not let people do what they want? Letting gay people get married will let them be equal citizens and enjoy the rights and benifits of being a married couple.

$1:

Dictionary.com
·mo·pho·bi·a ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hm-fb-)
n.
Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men.
Behavior based on such a feeling.

Want more proof? There's tons of it.

If he is religious, then it is against is beliefs, and his morals. That is not homophobia

[Donny_Brasco]

RUEZ RUEZ:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

RUEZ RUEZ:

VitaminC VitaminC:

of which? that he is against same sex marriage or that he supported the cops?

Yes there is proof, someone posted a quote or a link about it yesterday but I don't know what thread its in......

being against SSM doesn't autimatically make you a homophobe.

If you wern't afraid of gay people thay wny wouldn't you let two people who love each other get married?

$1:

Peter Kuitenbrouwer
National Post
Tuesday, May 24, 2005
Speaker after speaker vowed to stop the legislation or, if it passes, to target MPs to ensure the next federal government is "pro-marriage."

"There is no such thing as a right to same-sex marriage," said Maurice Vellacott, the Tory MP for Saskatoon-Wanukewin. He compared gays pushing for the right to marry with someone playing a game on ice without a hockey stick and demanding it be called hockey.

Why not let people do what they want? Letting gay people get married will let them be equal citizens and enjoy the rights and benifits of being a married couple.

$1:

Dictionary.com
·mo·pho·bi·a ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hm-fb-)
n.
Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men.
Behavior based on such a feeling.

Want more proof? There's tons of it.

That's not proof of anything. I know people who don't want the word marriage used, they have their reasons. They would fully accept a term such as civil union. But saying people against SSM are homophobes, well that's just rediculous. Of course there definately are homophobes against SSM.

Its called contempt. Which fits into the definition.

[RUEZ]

VitaminC VitaminC:

Ok, found it.....Here's the link to the entire story....the following are a couple paragraphs out of tghe story...

Vellacott establishes defence fund for ex-cops

Darren Bernhardt, The StarPhoenix, Friday, August 27, 2004

A legal defence fund has been established to help disgraced former city police officers Ken Munson and Dan Hatchen fight to have their case reopened and their names cleared.

But the lawyer for Darrell Night, the aboriginal man whose complaint led to Munson's and Hatchen's 2001 convictions for unlawful confinement, laughed at the notion that the ex-officers were, in their words, seeking justice.

"Perhaps those monies, at the end of the day, can go toward compensating Mr. Night for the trauma that these individuals ultimately were convicted of," said Don Worme.
.
.
.
.
.
"I find it very disappointing that the Reform-Conservative-Alliance would continue to use public money to defend common criminals and foster division in our community. If this is their idea of bridge building it's certainly different than what most right-thinking people would consider."

The list of contributors to the fund to date includes former Saskatoon police chief Dave Scott and his wife, Colleen. Scott was fired in 2001 at the height of allegations that officers were dropping aboriginal people off at the edge of the city in freezing weather.

Perhaps these people honestly believe the officers are innocent. I guess anyone that supported David Milgard was supporting a murderer?

[Tricks]

RUEZ RUEZ:

VitaminC VitaminC:

Ok, found it.....Here's the link to the entire story....the following are a couple paragraphs out of tghe story...

Vellacott establishes defence fund for ex-cops

Darren Bernhardt, The StarPhoenix, Friday, August 27, 2004

A legal defence fund has been established to help disgraced former city police officers Ken Munson and Dan Hatchen fight to have their case reopened and their names cleared.

But the lawyer for Darrell Night, the aboriginal man whose complaint led to Munson's and Hatchen's 2001 convictions for unlawful confinement, laughed at the notion that the ex-officers were, in their words, seeking justice.

"Perhaps those monies, at the end of the day, can go toward compensating Mr. Night for the trauma that these individuals ultimately were convicted of," said Don Worme.
.
.
.
.
.
"I find it very disappointing that the Reform-Conservative-Alliance would continue to use public money to defend common criminals and foster division in our community. If this is their idea of bridge building it's certainly different than what most right-thinking people would consider."

The list of contributors to the fund to date includes former Saskatoon police chief Dave Scott and his wife, Colleen. Scott was fired in 2001 at the height of allegations that officers were dropping aboriginal people off at the edge of the city in freezing weather.

Perhaps these people honestly believe the officers are innocent. I guess anyone that supported David Milgard was supporting a murderer?

or all people who supported Michael Jackson supports a little boy toucher

[OnTheIce]

My fellow Conservatives...

Remember the Liberal way


"We're running a campaign here, there's no time for facts"

[Donny_Brasco]

$1:

Amnesty International :
There were allegations of patterns of police abuse against First Nation (Aboriginal) men in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. There were reports that members of Saskatoon City Police had for a number of years had an unofficial policy of abandoning intoxicated or ''troublesome'' members of the indigenous community away from the population centre of Saskatoon, thereby placing them at great risk of dying of hypothermia during the winter months.

First Nation member Darrell Night claimed that in January two Saskatoon police constables handcuffed him, drove him outside the city and abandoned him in freezing conditions. He only survived because he was able to get help from the nightwatchman of a nearby power station. The two police officers were reportedly suspended from duty and were under investigation in connection with the incident at the end of the year.
The bodies of First Nation members Rodney Naistus and Lawrence Wegner were discovered near a power station on the outskirts of Saskatoon on 29 January and 3 February respectively. Both bodies were without jackets and the men appeared to have frozen to death

[OnTheIce]

lily lily:

Apparently it's the Con way as well.

Really?

I didn't see the Cons campaign of fear and hyposcrisy.