[Libralesso]

Eisen it is more an issue of they were not allowed to preserve their culture, in many cases it was illegal to do so. As to Eye it isn't all the white persons fault, although their lose of culture and traditional knowledge is mostly because of our nation. Also the lack of voice they have is because we try to sweep their problems under the rug.

[EyeBrock]

It seems to me that people should be the guardians of their own culture, not bleat for infinite handouts to maintain it.

[roger-roger]

Libralesso Libralesso:

Eisen it is more an issue of they were not allowed to preserve their culture, in many cases it was illegal to do so. As to Eye it isn't all the white persons fault, although their lose of culture and traditional knowledge is mostly because of our nation. Also the lack of voice they have is because we try to sweep their problems under the rug.

From what I have seen their problems are private issues, and are no where near the government rug.

[Libralesso]

Issues like land claims are government issues. Besides under treaty anything that concerns the Native communities is federal government policy. Read the various acts in Canada.

also to eye people should be the guardians of their own culture, but governments should not try to interfere and take their culture away from them

[EyeBrock]

When was the last time a government in Canada took culture away from FN's?

[ShepherdsDog]

It's easier for them to blame others(Whitey) for their own failures rather than accept responsibility for their own mistakes, and then try and rectify said mistakes. It's a very juvenile approach. The entire attitude on most Native Reservations is, 'you do it for me'.

I watching CBC Manitoba a few days ago and they were interviewing Daniel Wolfe, one of those who escaped from Regina, and who was recaptured in Winnipeg(along with a serious skank). He 'tried' to claim that it was residential schools that were responsible for him being up on 2 charges of first degree murder and 3 of attempted. He never attended residential school.

[roger-roger]

What should be done with the previous land claim you mentioned? Which treaties are you speaking of?

Where in the last 40 years has Canada tried to take native culture away from them.

[Libralesso]

first to eis residential schools were a prime example of that happening in the last 40 years. Second it doesn't matter how recent it was, the fact is the government still tried to destroy their culture and it worked partially. Right now many are still trying to re-claim their culture. To Shepperd that is a very ignorant way of looking at it, take some aboriginal studies courses. That is actually the attitude of many of the middle class in this society.

[roger-roger]

well when were these residential school abolished?

[EyeBrock]

The 1970's I believe sapper. I think the odd one made it to the very early 80's.

[Libralesso]

1996: The last residential school in Canada, on the Gordon reserve in Saskatchewan, closed.

[roger-roger]

So most of the students who went to these schools will be retiring in the next 5-10 years.

[Libralesso]

Yes but what people don't understand are the emotional scares they left. They were taken away from their parents, therefore they don't know how to be parents causing a generational effect of bad parenting. Just one example of the negative effects of those schools, there is more.

[ShepherdsDog]

read...he never attended a residential school

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To Shepperd that is a very ignorant way of looking at it, take some aboriginal studies courses. That is actually the attitude of many of the middle class in this society.

I spent a lot of time on a reserve when I was a kid, and taught highschool on a fly in reserve for a couple of years. While there I also worked in the RCMP holding cells, so I'd say my real life experience(which include working in different cultures around the world) trumps a few 'courses' on natives, which I imagine is your sole exposure to native life and culture. You must be a first year psych or sociology student, because it seems you have all the answers.

[roger-roger]

Very sad, and yet one more reason for government to be completely secular.
The people abused in these schools should be looked after but this was not swept under the rug and the churchs responsible fears they will become bankrupt soon.
The Gordon first nation was in control of the last residential school in operation.

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from 1975 until the closure of the Gordon school in 1996, the band had an advisory board in place that was responsible for administering the school - and by implication, was probably aware of what was happening. That is certainly the view of some Gordon victims.

If only 20% of FN childeren went to these schools why would parenting problems be prevalent among natives?