[Scape]

Foundation season 2 is holding up. Considering the source material that's a minor miracle. Hari Seldon as portrayed by Jared Harris feels like a poker game where you know he is holding aces.

[DrCaleb]

It's been a while since I read Azimov, but they do seem to be zuzhing it up a touch.

I think Harry is just as lost as the rest of us. Jared Harris just makes it look like Harry knows what he's doing.

[xerxes]

They're definitely improving on the books/stories with the show. Asimov had great ideas but was a poor writer.

[Scape]

Exactly, the books were a mess. An editor was badly needed but the show has forced a focus to the theme and the actors are making the focus have a vision. Their talent and that of the writers are forcing the narrative to be coherent otherwise the audience will flee. The free market is making lemonade out of vintage lemons.

Asmov is as good at writing a coherent theme as Stephen King was at making ending but both were masters at making grand ideas gripping to the audience. Refining that to be consumable is no slouching either. There are tons of holes in the books as they are not complete or sacrosanct. Forcing that together and making it coherent is a spectacle worth watching.

[Thanos]

Foundation returned to form last night after too many lacklustre episodes in a row. When Brother Day's full inhumanity gets put on display, such as with the way he enjoys exterminating entire family lines across multiple generations, is fairly chilling to watch. And they ditched pretty much all of the Buffy-grade jokey-ness that's been too prevalent in the previous episodes, especially among the people of Terminus. I like Buffy-grade joking in shows like Buffy but IMO it's wildly out of place in a space opera like Foundation. Hari Seldon, either the human or AI-avatar version, shouldn't be talking or behaving like Giles the Sunnydale High School librarian. Not ever, not even once.

A reminder from Season One as to what Day can, and enjoys, doing....

[Scape]

Ray Stevenson RIP. We were robbed... Was so looking forward to seeing him dominate the role. That said the show is off to a good start.

[DrCaleb]

Yea it was good to see him in Ashoka. Interesting too how they continue in live action from the animated series.

And Foundation is rocking it. Sucks that they'd bring back Harry then go and do that.

[Thanos]

Lee Pace deserves all the awards for Brother Day. No offense to Ian McDarmid but Brother Day is far more terrifying of an emperor in Foundation than Palpatine was in all five movies & one Obi-Wan episode combined.

I thought Ahsoka was off to a bit of a rough start. The CGI is beyond awesome and the story is mostly effective. I wish they weren't doing so many dramatic pauses in the dialogue. Seems kind of snotty IMO.

[xerxes]

I know what you mean. I'm sure it'll get revealed later, but Ahsoka is very standoff-ish and cold in the first two episodes for some reason and it's kind of killing the vibe.

I'm kind of wishing I'd watched Clone Ward and Rebels so more of the backstory makes sense to me.

[DrCaleb]

xerxes xerxes:

I'm kind of wishing I'd watched Clone Ward and Rebels so more of the backstory makes sense to me.

I think they can still be found in certain places. The back story is a little important. I'm actually surprised still that they put such a dramatic story line in an animated series.

[Thanos]

I was kind of put off by the various animated Star Wars series. The style was too cartoonish, like a bunch of plush toys with oversized heads running around being silly. Which is unfortunate, because some major canonical storylines happened on those shows that involved Thrawn, Darth Maul, Dooku, the Night Sisters of Dathomir, and some very high-powered Force-sensitive people & creatures that rivalled (or even dwarfed) Palpatine in terms of sheer power. Torrenting is probably the best option but once again I just don't like that kind of animation so I'm not sure if it's worth the time & effort to track them all down.

[xerxes]

Thanos Thanos:

I was kind of put off by the various animated Star Wars series. The style was too cartoonish, like a bunch of plush toys with oversized heads running around being silly. Which is unfortunate, because some major canonical storylines happened on those shows that involved Thrawn, Darth Maul, Dooku, the Night Sisters of Dathomir, and some very high-powered Force-sensitive people & creatures that rivalled (or even dwarfed) Palpatine in terms of sheer power. Torrenting is probably the best option but once again I just don't like that kind of animation so I'm not sure if it's worth the time & effort to track them all down.

Gotta agree with you again. The animation style always turned me off with the Clone Wars and Rebels series. Which is a shame in some because just like Batman: TAS from back in the day, they had some mature and deep storylines in what was supposed to be more of a kid oriented show.

[DrCaleb]

xerxes xerxes:

Thanos Thanos:

I was kind of put off by the various animated Star Wars series. The style was too cartoonish, like a bunch of plush toys with oversized heads running around being silly. Which is unfortunate, because some major canonical storylines happened on those shows that involved Thrawn, Darth Maul, Dooku, the Night Sisters of Dathomir, and some very high-powered Force-sensitive people & creatures that rivalled (or even dwarfed) Palpatine in terms of sheer power. Torrenting is probably the best option but once again I just don't like that kind of animation so I'm not sure if it's worth the time & effort to track them all down.

Gotta agree with you again. The animation style always turned me off with the Clone Wars and Rebels series. Which is a shame in some because just like Batman: TAS from back in the day, they had some mature and deep storylines in what was supposed to be more of a kid oriented show.

Yea, the animation isn't great. But the stories are definitely worth it.

[Scape]

Good cliff notes version of the backstory.

[Scape]

Feloni is leaning into the books more than the cartoons. He is very much a fan of Thrawn. I always like the plucky snips character in the cartoon, she was my favorite with much potential to take the franchise in a good direction if they wanted to use her story as a basis to expand on the greater lore. Not being a 'true' jedi as she rejects it after Anakin turned and sees the corruption in the jedi order for being overly bureaucratic and cumbersome in the time of a clear threat during the clone wars but still a force for good.