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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:52 pm
WTF is this bullshit?!
No wonder kids are increasingly messed up. We keep trying to construct reality for them to protect their "fragile" worlds.
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Lemmy
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:55 pm
There is a thing called sportsmanship, Arctic, and that's a good lesson for kids.
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Mustang1
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:57 pm
This isn't sports, it's a self-esteem exercise. Sad. I would not have my kids participate in this travesty.
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Ash1980
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:57 pm
So why play? Why get better? Why keep trying?
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:03 pm
With this rule, they are essentially punishing excellence and rewarding failure.
Is that what we want to teach kids?
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:05 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: There is a thing called sportsmanship, Arctic, and that's a good lesson for kids. This has nothing to do with sportsmanship and everything to do with protecting what apparently is a super fragile self-esteem in kids these days. Growing up, I learned that you win some and lose some and you have to be respectful and dignified in both instances. I learned how not to be a sore loser and how not to act like a douche when we won either by a small margin or a large margin. Kids need to learn to deal with these things, as unpleasant as they may be.
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Lemmy
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:08 pm
saturn_656 saturn_656: With this rule, they are essentially punishing excellence and rewarding failure.
Is that what we want to teach kids? That is SO untrue. Now, I don't advocate this as a league rule. I don't think the league should do this. But any coach that, up 7 goals in a soccer game, doesn't tell his players to "ease it back" is a poor coach. Would you want your son going end-to-end in a hockey game, scoring the final goal in a 32-0 hockey game? Would that make you proud of your son?
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:11 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: There is a thing called sportsmanship, Arctic, and that's a good lesson for kids. sportsmanship is not created by rules forcing you to be nice, it is created by you wanting to be nice, if anything this rule will cause kids to look for other games or leagues because their skills are so limited. It also breeds kids that think they can make anything 'fair' by complaining to somebody and not actually put real effort into making it fair. Punish the winners despite the fact they may be practicing several times harder than the people they beat, great life lesson.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:16 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: saturn_656 saturn_656: With this rule, they are essentially punishing excellence and rewarding failure.
Is that what we want to teach kids? That is SO untrue. Now, I don't advocate this as a league rule. I don't think the league should do this. But any coach that, up 7 goals in a soccer game, doesn't tell his players to "ease it back" is a poor coach. Would you want your son going end-to-end in a hockey game, scoring the final goal in a 32-0 hockey game? Would that make you proud of your son? Most coaches do and even if they don't a lot of the time the players start to, what this has done is make it so that even if they accidentally score more than 5 goals they have to let the other team score, which hurts more, losing by 7 points or knowing that the only reason you scored a goal was because rules tell the other team to let you? If my kid lost 32-0 I would still be proud of him because he kept playing to the end despite the massive gap in points, there is more to a game than the score. If anything it would encourage him to try harder next time.
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Lemmy
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:21 pm
jeff744 jeff744: Most coaches do and even if they don't a lot of the time the players start to, what this has done is make it so that even if they accidentally score more than 5 goals they have to let the other team score, which hurts more, losing by 7 points or knowing that the only reason you scored a goal was because rules tell the other team to let you? I totally agree. I already said I didn't think this was a good league rule. jeff44 jeff44: If my kid lost 32-0 I would still be proud of him because he kept playing to the end despite the massive gap in points, there is more to a game than the score. If anything it would encourage him to try harder next time. I'd be proud of my kid losing 32-0 if he/she was trying and having fun. I wouldn't be proud of my kid if they scored any of goals 11 through 32.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:23 pm
Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace: WTF is this bullshit?! No wonder kids are increasingly messed up. We keep trying to construct reality for them to protect their "fragile" worlds. You are correct. And the poor little coddled, wimps are going to haunt us until their great grandchildren's dying days. This is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard. It was likely implemented by a first generation cream puff.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:24 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: There is a thing called sportsmanship, Arctic, and that's a good lesson for kids. Not it isn't. And it isn't doing the kids one bit of good.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:27 pm
God...was Demolition Man a premonition of the society these people would engineer??
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Lemmy
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:29 pm
wildrosegirl wildrosegirl: Lemmy Lemmy: There is a thing called sportsmanship, Arctic, and that's a good lesson for kids. Not it isn't. And it isn't doing the kids one bit of good. You don't think sportsmanship is a good lesson for kids? 
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