[Newsbot]

Title: Wilson-Raybould's credibility skyrockets with damning audio
Category: Political
Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2019-03-30 09:35:12
Canadian

[Mowich]

Excellent and well-planned out hit job on Wernick. Wilson-Raybould has shown that there is nothing she won't do to expose the lies - including the questionable clandistine taping of a phone conversation.

[Tricks]

Mowich Mowich:

Excellent and well-planned out hit job on Wernick. Wilson-Raybould has shown that there is nothing she won't do to expose the lies - including the questionable clandistine taping of a phone conversation.

Canada is a one party consent for recording. If you're part of the conversation, you can record it without informing the other person. Anyone who's boss is being a shitfuck should always be doing this.

[BRAH]

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[Freakinoldguy]

Mowich Mowich:

Excellent and well-planned out hit job on Wernick. Wilson-Raybould has shown that there is nothing she won't do to expose the lies - including the questionable clandistine taping of a phone conversation.

Wernick is just collateral damage in the Palace Coup.

But, here's a thought. When you're part of the Star Chamber you don't normally make tapes unless you intend to discredit or expose someone.

If she had these supposed ethics and scruples all along she would have chosen NOT participate in the Admiral Norman round table since by all accounts it was very similar to the SNC Lavalin one which violated the laws with regard to subverting justice,

But, for some reason she willingly did participate in that round table without taping the conversations and then when asked by the Admirals lawyers has refused to give any of the evidence she is in possession of and used the solicitor client privilege law to avoid doing what she's being applauded for now.

[N_Fiddledog]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

But, here's a thought. When you're part of the Star Chamber you don't normally make tapes unless you intend to discredit or expose someone.

Lindsay Shepherd thinks it can also be a useful tool to protect yourself.

[Thanos]

I'll give JWR credit for taking out Wernick, and maybe for torpedoing the Trudeau PMO altogether just from being smart enough to cover her own ass with the recordings, emails, etc.. The spectacle of the "most feminist PM ever!" getting nailed by some women in caucus that he screwed over or wanted to behave unethically on behalf of a corrupt Quebec mega-corporation is hilarious if nothing else. That being said though JWR herself leaves a lot to be desired as a minister. This thing with Admiral Norman is as sleazy as it gets. The worst thing she's been involved with is this racial "balancing" of juries that Trudeau demanded after the jury delivered a "wrong" verdict in the Stanley/Boushie case. That showed that JWR was as uninterested as Trudeau in maintaining the independence and integrity of the trial system and much more interested in using it as another virtue-signalling/politically-correct weapon. That isn't the sort of person who should be overseeing a legal system, not if some ephemeral "social justice" is their main priority over the basic justice a trial is supposed to deliver.

[BeaverFever]

Thanos Thanos:

I'll give JWR credit for taking out Wernick, and maybe for torpedoing the Trudeau PMO altogether just from being smart enough to cover her own ass with the recordings, emails, etc.. The spectacle of the "most feminist PM ever!" getting nailed by some women in caucus that he screwed over or wanted to behave unethically on behalf of a corrupt Quebec mega-corporation is hilarious if nothing else. That being said though JWR herself leaves a lot to be desired as a minister. This thing with Admiral Norman is as sleazy as it gets. The worst thing she's been involved with is this racial "balancing" of juries that Trudeau demanded after the jury delivered a "wrong" verdict in the Stanley/Boushie case. That showed that JWR was as uninterested as Trudeau in maintaining the independence and integrity of the trial system and much more interested in using it as another virtue-signalling/politically-correct weapon. That isn't the sort of person who should be overseeing a legal system, not if some ephemeral "social justice" is their main priority over the basic justice a trial is supposed to deliver.

Nobody ordered any “racial balancing” of juries that’s just a straight up lie.

[PluggyRug]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Thanos Thanos:

I'll give JWR credit for taking out Wernick, and maybe for torpedoing the Trudeau PMO altogether just from being smart enough to cover her own ass with the recordings, emails, etc.. The spectacle of the "most feminist PM ever!" getting nailed by some women in caucus that he screwed over or wanted to behave unethically on behalf of a corrupt Quebec mega-corporation is hilarious if nothing else. That being said though JWR herself leaves a lot to be desired as a minister. This thing with Admiral Norman is as sleazy as it gets. The worst thing she's been involved with is this racial "balancing" of juries that Trudeau demanded after the jury delivered a "wrong" verdict in the Stanley/Boushie case. That showed that JWR was as uninterested as Trudeau in maintaining the independence and integrity of the trial system and much more interested in using it as another virtue-signalling/politically-correct weapon. That isn't the sort of person who should be overseeing a legal system, not if some ephemeral "social justice" is their main priority over the basic justice a trial is supposed to deliver.

Nobody ordered any “racial balancing” of juries that’s just a straight up lie.

Then what is bill C-75 all about?

[BeaverFever]

To the OP:

1) Once again we have a conservative opinion column in the news section. Why do conservatives have such a hard time telling the difference between facts and opinions?

2) The article conveniently leaves out all reference to Wernick saying numerous times things like quote]
you know [Trudeau] does not want to do anything outside the box of what is legal or proper ....he is thinking on bringing someone in like [former Supreme Court Justice] Bev McLachlin to give him advice on this or to give you advice on this if you want to feel more uncomfortable you are not doing anything inappropriate[/quote]. That doesn’t sound so “damning” it sounds like the opposite.

3) So JWR is saying PMO didn’t break the law with any of this but this is still very serious matter because it’s “inappropriate”. But when it comes to her secretly recording Wernick she says ‘it’s ok it’s not illegal just inappropriate’. Ironic?

I’m not saying JWR is wrong in her position but it’s obvious that the PMO didn’t think they were doing anything inappropriate and ultimately they wanted an outside legal opinion on the matter. This is about 2 competing interpretations if the law and “appropriateness” not someone trying to get away with shady dealings

[herbie]

FFS they specifically passed a DPA law for this blackmailing shit of a company and JWR is whining about "pressure" that any minimum wage earner gets 10X over.
A fucking Tory gov't would kowtowed just as bad to Lavalin and ORDERED the Justice Minister, who would've done it and shut up about it like a good dog. And you'd never know.
Don't fucking kid yourself. JWR is grandstanding, upset she's not as important as she thought she was. Boot her ass out already.

[martin14]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

To the OP:

1) Once again we have a conservative opinion column in the news section. Why do conservatives have such a hard time telling the difference between facts and opinions?

So, since the Russia thing is all a massive crock, maybe the alt left should take their
own advice and all left wing MSM complete fabrication of lies and bullshit should
now only be allowed in the 'opinion' section.

Or better yet, the 'tin foil' flaming dumpster.

[Mowich]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Mowich Mowich:

Excellent and well-planned out hit job on Wernick. Wilson-Raybould has shown that there is nothing she won't do to expose the lies - including the questionable clandistine taping of a phone conversation.

Wernick is just collateral damage in the Palace Coup.

But, here's a thought. When you're part of the Star Chamber you don't normally make tapes unless you intend to discredit or expose someone.

If she had these supposed ethics and scruples all along she would have chosen NOT participate in the Admiral Norman round table since by all accounts it was very similar to the SNC Lavalin one which violated the laws with regard to subverting justice,

But, for some reason she willingly did participate in that round table without taping the conversations and then when asked by the Admirals lawyers has refused to give any of the evidence she is in possession of and used the solicitor client privilege law to avoid doing what she's being applauded for now.

Exactly right, Freakin'. The Vice-Admiral Norman affair is the other shoe waiting to drop on the government and all the usual suspects including the former AG.

[Mowich]

Thanos Thanos:

I'll give JWR credit for taking out Wernick, and maybe for torpedoing the Trudeau PMO altogether just from being smart enough to cover her own ass with the recordings, emails, etc.. The spectacle of the "most feminist PM ever!" getting nailed by some women in caucus that he screwed over or wanted to behave unethically on behalf of a corrupt Quebec mega-corporation is hilarious if nothing else. That being said though JWR herself leaves a lot to be desired as a minister. This thing with Admiral Norman is as sleazy as it gets. The worst thing she's been involved with is this racial "balancing" of juries that Trudeau demanded after the jury delivered a "wrong" verdict in the Stanley/Boushie case. That showed that JWR was as uninterested as Trudeau in maintaining the independence and integrity of the trial system and much more interested in using it as another virtue-signalling/politically-correct weapon. That isn't the sort of person who should be overseeing a legal system, not if some ephemeral "social justice" is their main priority over the basic justice a trial is supposed to deliver.

I could not agree more, Thanos.

[Mowich]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Thanos Thanos:

I'll give JWR credit for taking out Wernick, and maybe for torpedoing the Trudeau PMO altogether just from being smart enough to cover her own ass with the recordings, emails, etc.. The spectacle of the "most feminist PM ever!" getting nailed by some women in caucus that he screwed over or wanted to behave unethically on behalf of a corrupt Quebec mega-corporation is hilarious if nothing else. That being said though JWR herself leaves a lot to be desired as a minister. This thing with Admiral Norman is as sleazy as it gets. The worst thing she's been involved with is this racial "balancing" of juries that Trudeau demanded after the jury delivered a "wrong" verdict in the Stanley/Boushie case. That showed that JWR was as uninterested as Trudeau in maintaining the independence and integrity of the trial system and much more interested in using it as another virtue-signalling/politically-correct weapon. That isn't the sort of person who should be overseeing a legal system, not if some ephemeral "social justice" is their main priority over the basic justice a trial is supposed to deliver.

Nobody ordered any “racial balancing” of juries that’s just a straight up lie.

You are right. It was never ordered because she never got the chance to tamper with the selection process which by her own statement following the verdict she had every intention of trying to do.