[Newsbot]

Title: When the RCMP came calling
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: shockedcanadian
Date: 2016-08-22 09:57:51
Canadian

[uwish]

I never liked C51 and it looks like the liberals don't mind it much now it's their turn at the trough...

[Thanos]

$1:

And I won’t stop. In fact, I just texted a jihadist.

Traitor.

[andyt]

uwish uwish:

I never liked C51 and it looks like the liberals don't mind it much now it's their turn at the trough...

Exactly how does C51 allow the Liberals to feed at the trough?

[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

$1:

And I won’t stop. In fact, I just texted a jihadist.

Reporter.

FTFY.

Sure he's a liberal and probably a commie, too. But unless he's aiding and abetting then he's doing his job as a reporter and he's got a right to be left alone to do that job.

If the government were truly interested in freedom then they could spy on the reporter and let him gather intel on the terrorist for them.

Instead it looks to me like their purpose here is to silence him and shut him down.

Probably because he's coming up with information that's embarassing to the government and in particular to the CSIS that's supposed to be doing the job this man is doing: finding terrorists and finding out what they're up to.

All he did was to troll social media and he came up with a wanted terrorist. Why couldn't the government do that?

That's the question that needs to be asked here.

[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Thanos Thanos:

$1:

And I won’t stop. In fact, I just texted a jihadist.

Reporter.

FTFY.

Sure he's a liberal and probably a commie, too. But unless he's aiding and abetting then he's doing his job as a reporter and he's got a right to be left alone to do that job.

If the government were truly interested in freedom then they could spy on the reporter and let him gather intel on the terrorist for them.

Instead it looks to me like their purpose here is to silence him and shut him down.

Probably because he's coming up with information that's embarassing to the government and in particular to the CSIS that's supposed to be doing the job this man is doing: finding terrorists and finding out what they're up to.

All he did was to troll social media and he came up with a wanted terrorist. Why couldn't the government do that?

That's the question that needs to be asked here.

[BRAH]

$1:

The funny thing is, back when I started contacting social media savvy Islamic State operatives advertising their escapades fighting and killing their way across Iraq and Syria, I knew the cops would eventually knock on my door.

What did he think was going to happen?

[DrCaleb]

BRAH BRAH:

$1:

The funny thing is, back when I started contacting social media savvy Islamic State operatives advertising their escapades fighting and killing their way across Iraq and Syria, I knew the cops would eventually knock on my door.

What did he think was going to happen?

What did Woodward and Bernstein think was going to happen when they found evidence that the POTUS wire tapped phones in the Watergate hotel? And they did it anyway. And it cost the President his job.

Now, the POTUS wiretaps everybody, everywhere, and it rarely makes news.

A fair and free press is essential to a functioning democracy.

[Dayseed]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Sure he's a liberal and probably a commie, too. But unless he's aiding and abetting then he's doing his job as a reporter and he's got a right to be left alone to do that job.

True enough.

$1:

If the government were truly interested in freedom then they could spy on the reporter and let him gather intel on the terrorist for them.

That's what the RCMP did. Except rather than do it via cloak and dagger, they served him with a production order which comes with the legal trappings of having your day in court to vary, quash or show the order cannot be complied with. He got his day in court.

The information that the RCMP would be gathering would be evidence of a crime; if the target isn't supposed to be using electronic communication devices as part of bail conditions/parole, the communications themselves are evidence of a breach. If the target is admitting to traveling overseas to assist in a foreign war, that's evidence of a crime. To have the order issued, the RCMP would have had to spell that out in their application, likely with the reporter's stories forming their grounds. I would also safely bet that the Federal Crowns reviewed the application before it hit a Judge's desk.

$1:

Instead it looks to me like their purpose here is to silence him and shut him down.

Probably because he's coming up with information that's embarassing to the government and in particular to the CSIS that's supposed to be doing the job this man is doing: finding terrorists and finding out what they're up to.

All he did was to troll social media and he came up with a wanted terrorist. Why couldn't the government do that?

Because he made contact as a reporter. It would set a horribly dangerous precedent if the police were to pose as reporters, with an expectation of some sort of anonymity on the part of the target, and then use that information in open court to prosecute. It would dry up reporter's confidential sources or likely get one killed.

$1:

That's the question that needs to be asked here.

It did need asking!

[BRAH]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BRAH BRAH:

$1:

The funny thing is, back when I started contacting social media savvy Islamic State operatives advertising their escapades fighting and killing their way across Iraq and Syria, I knew the cops would eventually knock on my door.

What did he think was going to happen?

What did Woodward and Bernstein think was going to happen when they found evidence that the POTUS wire tapped phones in the Watergate hotel? And they did it anyway. And it cost the President his job.

Now, the POTUS wiretaps everybody, everywhere, and it rarely makes news.

A fair and free press is essential to a functioning democracy.

Come on Watergate was a different time. We live in a 9/11 World where everything we do is monitored as Snowden proved. This reporter should have used better judgement especially on social media because like it or not this is the reality we now live in.

[BartSimpson]

BRAH BRAH:

Come on Watergate was a different time. We live in a 9/11 World where everything we do is monitored as Snowden proved. This reporter should have used better judgement especially on social media because like it or not this is the reality we now live in.

Not sure how effective it is to destroy liberty in the name of protecting it.

[DrCaleb]

BRAH BRAH:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BRAH BRAH:

What did he think was going to happen?

What did Woodward and Bernstein think was going to happen when they found evidence that the POTUS wire tapped phones in the Watergate hotel? And they did it anyway. And it cost the President his job.

Now, the POTUS wiretaps everybody, everywhere, and it rarely makes news.

A fair and free press is essential to a functioning democracy.

Come on Watergate was a different time. We live in a 9/11 World where everything we do is monitored as Snowden proved. This reporter should have used better judgement especially on social media because like it or not this is the reality we now live in.

That wasn't the point though. The point was the reporter has to do his job, whether he's being monitored or not. And society has to accept that reporters need to do their job, or society doesn't function.

As I always say, if I'm doing nothing wrong, then I don't need to be monitored. Which is the opposite way it works now.

[BRAH]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Not sure how effective it is to destroy liberty in the name of protecting it.

This was going on before 9/11 and now in the 9/11 World we have no say so ether people need to deal with it or stay off line and that's the sad reality.

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

That wasn't the point though. The point was the reporter has to do his job, whether he's being monitored or not. And society has to accept that reporters need to do their job, or society doesn't function.

As I always say, if I'm doing nothing wrong, then I don't need to be monitored. Which is the opposite way it works now.

It doesn't matter because the genie has been let out of the bottle and he's not going back in. The reporter should have known better but he didn't because every reporter wants to be the next Glenn Greenwald.

[Thanos]

BRAH BRAH:

......every reporter wants to be the next Glenn Greenwald.

Which can also be interpreted as "technically I meet every criteria of an enemy agent but as opposed to a run-of-the-mill spy I can use the long standing press shield to never have to account for any of my actions against my own state, nation, and society".

[DrCaleb]

Thanos Thanos:

BRAH BRAH:

......every reporter wants to be the next Glenn Greenwald.

Which can also be interpreted as "technically I meet every criteria of an enemy agent but as opposed to a run-of-the-mill spy I can use the long standing press shield to never have to account for any of my actions against my own state, nation, and society".

Only if you assume it's OK for your country to do the wrong thing and never be held accountable.