[Batsy2]

There may be nothing between Labour and the modern liberal Tories, but it was revealed yesterday that the Tories - those who are, according to the Left, supposed to be really unpopular in Scotland because there is only one Tory MP in Scotland - have actually just overtaken Labour in the polls in Scotland. It's the first time since the 1950s that the Tories have been ahead of Labour in Scotland.

Anyway, I want Labour to win the General Election to the 56th UK parliament on Thursday 7th May - but only because a Labour victory will also be a huge boost to Ukip (who I will be voting for).

[andyt]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Nothing's got me bent out of shape but, what I do take umbrage to is your attempt to use statistics to dilute the fact that it's a specific group of people who are committing this crime in a very specific area.

My guess is that you'd have no trouble pointing out that in most other areas populated by a majority of white people it's the white people who are predominately committing these crimes oh wait, you already did that.

But, when it's pointed out that in the Midlands which is predominately white it's the "Asians" committing this crime you automatically become extremely defensive which seems to seems to show a remarkable lack of objectivity when it comes to any disparaging topics about anyone but white people.

BTW you're the one who went into defensive mode and began attacking whites because you, automatically associated the term "Asians" with "Muslims" which, if you re-read the article was never specified. But, if you're unfounded assumptions are actually correct then, the percentage of the midlands population that's responsible for committing this crime goes from 10.8% to 4.1% since the only "Asian" Muslims are likely to be Pakistani.

So, until you can explain away the fact of how 10.8% or 4.1% (depending on the accuracy of your assumptions) of the population of a certain area is responsible for committing 75% of a specific crime I'll standby my assertions.

You can't seem to get it thru your head that what I'm reacting to is taking a small part of England, and a small part of how children are sexually exploited, and raving on about that, and how "it's the Asians" while saying nothing of he larger picture. YOu don't care about the actual problem of children being exploited, just the fact that in a particular instance it's Asians doing it.

As for Asians being Pakistanis, we've been thru all that here, and you're just trying to weasel out. The Brits use Asians to mean specifically Pakistanis, not the way we use Asians in Canada, which has some to mean Chinese, while we use the term south Asians for Indians and Pakistanis.

So again, no focus on the actual crime, just on who the perps are in one part of the country, that's where the outrage is directed. Sick.

[Zipperfish]

It's not just statistics. You have to take context into account. There have been horrific Islamist terrorist attacks in England. Beheadings by Islamists on British soil. Several hundred Islamists running off to join the Islamic State and urban areas unilaterally decalred as under sharia law by Islamic residents. The fact that a disproportionate number of these Muslims are targeting non-Muslim girls for rape doesn't help matters.

[martin14]

andyt andyt:

So again, no focus on the actual crime, just on who the perps are in one part of the country, that's where the outrage is directed.

Bullshit.

[andyt]

Nope. And for sure ignoring the situation because of fears of racism just allowed it to fester. But lost in it all, is the fact of children being exploited. What comes out of this is "we can't have those dirty brown Muslims defiling our girls, but if it's white people doing it, well, no worries, as the colonials say." It's just stoking the BNP agenda. For the Daily Mail it just sells papers, for FD, who says he's a part of a "them" (ie a group) I don't know what he gets out of it. Certainly works tho, since even you have fallen for it. Personally I don't care about the ethnicity or religion of the men (and women) abusing these girls, I care about stopping it no matter who's doing it. Just going baying after the brown men in a small part of England just allows it to fester in the rest of the country. Because as we've seen, the mostly white constabulary doesn't hold a high opinion of these girls, thinks they are willing participants.

[martin14]

More bullshit.

You have done nothing but try and deflect the news articles away,
by whining about whitey as usual.

Your defense of the pedos has been impressive.

[andyt]

less than your ability to spin what I say.

[martin14]

What you say is completely irrelevant bullshit, my you-are-a-self-admitted-troll.

[Zipperfish]

andyt andyt:

Nope. And for sure ignoring the situation because of fears of racism just allowed it to fester. But lost in it all, is the fact of children being exploited. What comes out of this is "we can't have those dirty brown Muslims defiling our girls, but if it's white people doing it, well, no worries, as the colonials say."

There's probably a certain amount of that. Even from me.

[N_Fiddledog]

andyt andyt:

For the Daily Mail it just sells papers, for FD, who says he's a part of a "them" (ie a group) I don't know what he gets out of it.

My group?

What? You mean people who rely on common sense?

Don't be so ridiculous. It doesn't help you. It adds to the pathetic.

There is no group out to get you. There are just sensible people who refuse to ignore the obvious. Most of them don't even notice you, other than to say who's that odd little fellow in the corner, mumbling into his fruit loops.

Speaking of groups though, your little group of idiots seems to be thinning out. Where's all those "nothing to see here" supporters you used to have?

Are you the only one left who can't seem to understand some things are just too in your face to be ignored? I'm starting to worry about you Bud. You might be the one who actually believes the bullshit.

[Freakinoldguy]

andyt andyt:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Nothing's got me bent out of shape but, what I do take umbrage to is your attempt to use statistics to dilute the fact that it's a specific group of people who are committing this crime in a very specific area.

My guess is that you'd have no trouble pointing out that in most other areas populated by a majority of white people it's the white people who are predominately committing these crimes oh wait, you already did that.

But, when it's pointed out that in the Midlands which is predominately white it's the "Asians" committing this crime you automatically become extremely defensive which seems to seems to show a remarkable lack of objectivity when it comes to any disparaging topics about anyone but white people.

BTW you're the one who went into defensive mode and began attacking whites because you, automatically associated the term "Asians" with "Muslims" which, if you re-read the article was never specified. But, if you're unfounded assumptions are actually correct then, the percentage of the midlands population that's responsible for committing this crime goes from 10.8% to 4.1% since the only "Asian" Muslims are likely to be Pakistani.

So, until you can explain away the fact of how 10.8% or 4.1% (depending on the accuracy of your assumptions) of the population of a certain area is responsible for committing 75% of a specific crime I'll standby my assertions.

You can't seem to get it thru your head that what I'm reacting to is taking a small part of England, and a small part of how children are sexually exploited, and raving on about that, and how "it's the Asians" while saying nothing of he larger picture. YOu don't care about the actual problem of children being exploited, just the fact that in a particular instance it's Asians doing it.

As for Asians being Pakistanis, we've been thru all that here, and you're just trying to weasel out. The Brits use Asians to mean specifically Pakistanis, not the way we use Asians in Canada, which has some to mean Chinese, while we use the term south Asians for Indians and Pakistanis.

So again, no focus on the actual crime, just on who the perps are in one part of the country, that's where the outrage is directed. Sick.

You're the one with the religious persecutions problem not me. I never said they were Muslims, you did and for all I or you for that matter know, they could have been Chinese, Indian, Tibetan or whatever but once again you went off the rails and in a fit of paranoia automatically assumed the term Asian meant Muslims and we were picking on them.

But, for the record I do happen to care about the victims something you're overlooking in your attempt to deflect blame from where it lies in those communities and to be honest, if you'd taken a second you'd have discovered that this article has less to do with the perpetrators who are committing the crimes as it does with the failure of the Social Security Network in the Midlands probably run by protestant white people who should have been protecting these kids. So if we looked deep enough there's probably enough multi racial and religious blame to pass around to satisfy even you.

Although in one respect you're right. No matter who perpetrates these crimes be they, white, black, yellow, catholic, Muslim or Hindu they should be taken off the streets for life and put in a chain gang farming Baffin Island.

[Batsy2]

andyt andyt:

Personally I don't care about the ethnicity or religion of the men (and women) abusing these girls.

The authorities certainly did. That's why they stood by and did nothing when they discovered it's Muslim men of Pakistani origin who were grooming young (white) girls. However, had it been white men attacking little hijab-wearing Muslim girls the authorities would have been on them like a ton of bricks. The key would have been thrown away.

It's also a known fact that these Muslim sex gangs almost exclusively target white girls. Muslims in Britain are brought up by their parents to believe that white girls are "easy" and nothing more than filthy sluts.