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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:02 pm
 


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I can't wait to see the police arresting a bunch of Niqab wearing women at a Muslim assembly. :lol:

And the didn't bother to read award goes to this guy.

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Nice to see that we have just made another law that covers something that was already illegal.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:03 pm
 


There's a difference between protecting your face from the cold or hiding it because you're doing something illegal, Bart.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:05 pm
 


Xort Xort:
raydan raydan:
I can't wait to see the police arresting a bunch of Niqab wearing women at a Muslim assembly. :lol:

And the didn't bother to read award goes to this guy.

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Nice to see that we have just made another law that covers something that was already illegal.

I know that you have absolutely no sense of humour, Xort, but that was ridiculous, even from you. Maybe I'll put 2 smilies next time to help your limited understanding.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:26 pm
 


Thanos Thanos:
Given the nature of the times, and the fact that the FLQ had begun murdering people, Trudeau had every reason to believe that a civil insurrection was breaking out in Quebec, and that if the federal government didn't act immediately events would rapidly get worse. The way he smashed it down before it spiraled out of control was one of the few things, if not the only thing, I ever admired him for.


Maybe, maybe not. The FLQ were certainly a problem that needed to be stopped, but preemptively deploying the military to stop a potential civil insurrection in Canada's largest city at the time set horrible precedent for Canada's future.

The Americans at least were facing significant issues (major riots and a civil war) that brought forth martial law. Canada's civil authorities were not compromised or overwhelmed during the FLQ Crisis to require the deployment of the military in Montreal, the arrests of hundreds without legitimate cause, and the suppression of the freedoms and liberties of all citizens of Montreal, anglophones or francophones.

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It was really no different, and just as necessary, as the British government outlawing the British Union of Fascists or the US clamping down on the German-American Bund at the outbreak of WW2. They were all-but-declared enemies of the government, just as the FLQ was, and they had to be dealt with.


The British Union of Fascists was only made illegal in 1940, during the Second War II, thus making it more acceptable for such a situation to occur, and the German-American Bund was prosecuted and suppressed by HUAC, without the intervention of the American military.

Canada wasn't at war at the time, like in the case of Britain, nor did Trudeau allow civil authorities (like HUAC) to carry out their responsibilities.

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Democracies can withstand an occasional bruising now and then. What is fatal to them is when anti-social and anti-government activities aren't immediately confronted and the perpetrators stopped. None of our rights, codified or otherwise, or respect for the rights of others obligate us to remain in a state of paralysis when violence and other dangerous threats to the social order make themselves apparent.


Except, in my view, as much as the FLQ was a threat, it was not a threat that could paralyze the whole city of Montreal, or Quebec, let alone Canada, due to possible violence. They needed to be dealt with, but we already have the police to deal with such situations. The FLQ Crisis never reached a level where the liberties of over a million Canadians had to be curtailed and suspended to restore order.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:41 pm
 


raydan raydan:
There's a difference between protecting your face from the cold or hiding it because you're doing something illegal, Bart.


I know that. Perhaps you can explain this to Jonny who said:

Jonny_C Jonny_C:
Canadians as a whole don't sympathize with faces being covered in public, for any reason.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:46 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
I know that. Perhaps you can explain this to Jonny who said:
Jonny_C Jonny_C:
Canadians as a whole don't sympathize with faces being covered in public, for any reason.

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He forgot Halloween too, full-face motorcycle helmets and... because I can't resist... these. :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:49 pm
 


Nice catch! :lol:

Especially like your comment on the motorcycle helmets because what happens when one law requires you to wear it and then another law requires that you don't? :?:


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:50 pm
 


We don't usually get demonstrations and/or riots in the winter time. Too f*ckin cold. :P


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:51 pm
 


Jonny_C Jonny_C:
We don't usually get demonstrations and/or riots in the winter time. Too f*ckin cold. :P


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:56 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Nice catch! :lol:

Especially like your comment on the motorcycle helmets because what happens when one law requires you to wear it and then another law requires that you don't? :?:

No law for that in New Hampshire. My ex BIL drove his bike down, thinking that he'd drive around without his helmet. The only place he took it off was on the camping grounds and going up Mount Washington. He put it back on to go down. :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:03 pm
 


raydan raydan:
He forgot Halloween too, full-face motorcycle helmets and... because I can't resist... these. :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:07 pm
 


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I guess that's the logical next step for the surveillance state.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:11 pm
 


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raydan raydan:
Isn't rioting a crime by itself?

This is like making it a crime to wear a mask when you rob a bank. :?


Don't know why I can't rep you for this, but I'm surprised that this obvious fact eludes some folk. :o [huh]


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:11 pm
 


I am totally in favor of this law - makes it so much easier for the police to catch the bad guys - or maybe the bad guys will just stay home and save us taxpayers money.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:12 pm
 


raydan raydan:
I can't wait to see the police arresting a bunch of Niqab wearing women at a Muslim assembly. :lol:


They would be exempt.

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Exceptions can be made if someone can prove they have a "lawful excuse" for covering their face such as religious or medical reasons.
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That's why I think the law doesn't go far enough.


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