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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:55 pm
 


America the dumb.

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She is fair game for editorials, blogs, comments on chat rooms, etc. That is free speech. I fully support every one's right to say whatever they wish about her. Throwing her out of an establishment that is open to the public is another matter altogether. Do you really want to live in a society that is that divided? I remember a story a few months back about a restaurant in California that did not want to serve cops. Should that be allowed? I don't think so.


Not really, but if the US is going to be as absolutist about free speech as it is, then telling someone "you're not welcome here" is still free speech.


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She is fair game for editorials, blogs, comments on chat rooms, etc. That is free speech. I fully support every one's right to say whatever they wish about her. Throwing her out of an establishment that is open to the public is another matter altogether. Do you really want to live in a society that is that divided? I remember a story a few months back about a restaurant in California that did not want to serve cops. Should that be allowed? I don't think so.


Not really, but if the US is going to be as absolutist about free speech as it is, then telling someone "you're not welcome here" is still free speech.

It is not absolutist. You cannot yell fire in a theater. You cannot threaten people. You cannot incite a riot. There are laws against libel and slander. There is a big difference in speech and action. The owner of Chic-fil-A can say that he is against gay marriage, but he cannot refuse to hire or serve gays. If his stance offends someone they are free not to do business at Chick-fil-A. They are free to speak out against the restaurant and organize boycotts. They are not free to smash in the windows or burn down the place.


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We also had the last several years featuring things like Chik-Fil-A, Hobby Lobby, and pseudo-Christian florists & bakers having their right to not be very decent or civil towards employees or customers they don't like confirmed by the courts on the basis of freedom of speech, freedom of association, and freedom of religion. Yet some restaurant tosses one of the uglier members of the Trump junta out on the grounds of morals and conscience and the right-wing wants them shut down (or burned out) for "not being very nice". Typically two-faced of them. Nauseatingly typical but completely unsurprising. That they want to deny the same rights to the owners & employees of the Red Hen and any other anti-Trump business while engaging in those same rights themselves to a vicious degree is just par for the course. All for them, none for anyone else in it's most banal Trumpian form is their own recognizable credo or value.

I recommend any Trump restaurant anywhere for those who are mad at Red Hen or any other business that won't take the money of Trumpers. Chow down on Trump steaks. Drink some Trump wine. Hopefully their luck in dodging the salmonella and e-coli lasts a very long time for them before it inevitably gets them. :lol:

I have expressed my views on Chick-fil-A. The owner/CEO can say what he likes about gay marriage, that is his right. No one is claiming that the company is discriminating against gays in the workplace or refusing service to gays in the restaurants. If his viewpoint bothers you that much, than don't eat there. Its simple.

I think that the SCOTUS got it wrong when it came to Hobby Lobby. I do not think that an employer should get to interject their personal/religious beliefs into someone else's healthcare decisions. They should offer the healthcare insurance and leave the medical decisions to the patient and their doctor. Not only should there be a separation between the Church and the state, there should be a separation between the employers religious beliefs and their employees (unless the business is some kind of Church. That I would allow). No one should have to belittle themselves and concede to someone else's religious beliefs just to get a job. Religion should be on someone's free time. It does not belong in any branch of the government. It does not belong in the workplace. It sure as hell does not belong in any thing to do with healthcare.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:45 pm
 


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The Red Hen owner resigns as executive director of Main Street Lexington
Wilkinson resigned Tuesday morning

LEXINGTON, Va. - Stephanie Wilkinson has resigned from her role with Main Street Lexington, a volunteer-based organization.

Elizabeth Outland Branner, the president of the organization, accepted Wilkinson's resignation Tuesday morning.

"Considering the events of the past weekend, Stephanie felt it best that for the continued success of Main Street Lexington, she should step aside," Branner wrote in an email.


I'm sure the owner of the Red Hen is crying fowl over this unexpected development. :lol:


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https://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/lexington/the-red-hen-owner-resigns-as-executive-director-of-main-street-lexington

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The Red Hen owner resigns as executive director of Main Street Lexington
Wilkinson resigned Tuesday morning

LEXINGTON, Va. - Stephanie Wilkinson has resigned from her role with Main Street Lexington, a volunteer-based organization.

Elizabeth Outland Branner, the president of the organization, accepted Wilkinson's resignation Tuesday morning.

"Considering the events of the past weekend, Stephanie felt it best that for the continued success of Main Street Lexington, she should step aside," Branner wrote in an email.


I'm sure the owner of the Red Hen is crying fowl over this unexpected development. :lol:



I saw what you did there.................. :lol: :lol:


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I have expressed my views on Chick-fil-A. The owner/CEO can say what he likes about gay marriage, that is his right. No one is claiming that the company is discriminating against gays in the workplace or refusing service to gays in the restaurants. If his viewpoint bothers you that much, than don't eat there. Its simple.


What's ironic is that up until the gay marriage issue blew up not that many people bothered with Chick-fil-a...myself included. When I was told that there were protesters blocking the lone CFA in Sacramento I made a point of going there with Mrs. Bart to have dinner.

When we got there we saw a bunch of bizarre looking individuals lawfully picketing and protesting and they were calling out to the customers but it was generally polite.

While we were having dinner we got treated to the sight of the CFA manager walking out to the protesters with some water (it was a hot day) which was politely accepted.

Before we left we noticed a sign in the window of the CFA that said to the effect: "CFA asks our customers to respect the First Amendment rights of our protesters the same way we ask them to respect our First Amendment rights."

I've been a loyal customer ever since.

rickc rickc:
I think that the SCOTUS got it wrong when it came to Hobby Lobby. I do not think that an employer should get to interject their personal/religious beliefs into someone else's healthcare decisions. They should offer the healthcare insurance and leave the medical decisions to the patient and their doctor. Not only should there be a separation between the Church and the state, there should be a separation between the employers religious beliefs and their employees (unless the business is some kind of Church. That I would allow). No one should have to belittle themselves and concede to someone else's religious beliefs just to get a job. Religion should be on someone's free time. It does not belong in any branch of the government. It does not belong in the workplace. It sure as hell does not belong in any thing to do with healthcare.


I necessarily disagree. An employer should not be forced to provide a benefit that conflicts with their views...religious, political, moral, or trivial.

Now, if with Obamacare there had been a payroll tax and then the choices of plans and etc. were directly administered by the government (like in the UK with the NHS) not only would I be okay with that but I suspect that Hobby Lobby would have been okay with it, too.

But with Obamacare employers were forced to select from a number of coverage options and all of those options offered a number of services that were offensive to the beliefs of Hobby Lobby.

Hobby Lobby was then placed in the situation of having to endorse a specific plan and thereby endorse abortion.

Thus the court case.

The court then reaffirmed the principle of their Hobby Lobby decision in the recent Masterpiece Bakeshop case and while the core of the USSC case pivoted on the bias of the Colorado Human Rights Commission the opinions in the case spoke to how religious freedoms don't give way to public accommodation.

Meaning that the Christian bakery has to offer the same standard services to all customers but they can reserve their artistic creations within their deeply held views. Masterpiece reserved the right to refuse to make Halloween cakes and other non-Christian cakes consistent with their views.

Next up I see the court ruling that unions can't force all employees of an employer to pay union dues and that'll be the end of the so-called 'closed shop' in the USA. That case addresses people being forced to support unions that engage in political speech counter to the views of the people being forced to pay dues.

Do you see the trend here?

The court is saying that you can't be forced or compelled to act outside your deeply held beliefs.

I agree with that opinion because I've long held that people have a Right Not to Act.

You can't make me is to me a fundamental and necessary human right. Like other rights it will have limitations, but those limitations should be few and of a sincerely compelling importance.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:11 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
https://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/lexington/the-red-hen-owner-resigns-as-executive-director-of-main-street-lexington

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The Red Hen owner resigns as executive director of Main Street Lexington
Wilkinson resigned Tuesday morning

LEXINGTON, Va. - Stephanie Wilkinson has resigned from her role with Main Street Lexington, a volunteer-based organization.

Elizabeth Outland Branner, the president of the organization, accepted Wilkinson's resignation Tuesday morning.

"Considering the events of the past weekend, Stephanie felt it best that for the continued success of Main Street Lexington, she should step aside," Branner wrote in an email.


I'm sure the owner of the Red Hen is crying fowl over this unexpected development. :lol:

Oh, good! They forced a volunteer to resign! That's the spirit! Volunteers are LOOZAHS!

MAGA!


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Forcing some chickenhawk with a padded resume and an active membership in a Hungarian fascist party to leave his paid job in the Trump White House? - bad, terrible, unfair, unAmerican

Seeing some volunteer quit their position making sure the flowers were planted along main street in a small town? - victory!, take that libs!, you've been owned!, MAGAGAGAGAGAGA-gag!

Like I said elsewhere today, we're not dealing with healthy or stable brains anymore. :|


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:47 pm
 


Here's where this is all at currently:



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The name of the group Wilkinson is the director of is Mainstreet Lexington.

It's an organization devoted to bringing customers to the businesses of Lexington.

(I'd give you a link to their website but something weird happened to my computer when I went there. You can find it easy enough if you want to risk it though.)

Wilkinson didn't just kick Huckabee Sanders out.

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Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee alleged Monday that the restaurant owner who refused service to his daughter, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, actually ended up following Mrs. Sanders‘ family to another restaurant and causing a “scene.”

Mr. Huckabee told conservative radio host Laura Ingraham on Monday that Stephanie Wilkinson, owner of the Red Hen in Lexington, Virginia, kicked Mrs. Sanders and her family out of the restaurant and then proceeded to yell at them when they tried to go to a different restaurant across the street.

“There’s a part of that story that hasn’t been told, you’re going to be the first to hear it,” Mr. Huckabee said, Mediaite first reported. “Once Sarah and her family left, of course Sarah was asked to please vacate, Sarah and her husband just went home. They had sort of had enough. But the rest of her family went across the street to a different restaurant.

“The owner of the Red Hen — nobody’s told this — then followed them across the street, called people, and organized a protest yelling and screaming at them from outside the other restaurant and creating this scene,” he said.


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Ironic, as @GovMikeHuckabee just noted, that @PressSecSanders‘ in-laws are liberals and not fans of @realDonaldTrump — well, now they know how radical the Dem Party has become.


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... ers-famil/

So that's the director of the organization tasked with bringing business to Lexington.

Still surprised she was voted out as director?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:11 am
 


More 'dirty deeds'... :lol: :lol:


Man arrested after throwing manure at The Red Hen restaurant
Restaurant was supposed to open Tuesday, but remained closed

https://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/lexi ... restaurant


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:16 am
 


martin14 martin14:
More 'dirty deeds'... :lol: :lol:


Man arrested after throwing manure at The Red Hen restaurant
Restaurant was supposed to open Tuesday, but remained closed

https://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/lexi ... restaurant


The Fox news guy in the video above was broadcasting from the scene shortly after manure-guy threw the pail. There was a small crowd milling around the restaurant. I think he said some were protestors.

Repercussions. Why the surprise that actions would have reactions?


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Ah well, it'll be a good day for your type when MAGA strikes back and burns the place to the ground. Should be happening anytime soon.


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