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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:01 pm
 


Believe it or not, I was a bicycle commuter for some 6 years and definately enjoy cycling, although not enough right now. I did have some relations with the BEST folks here and found them the most arogant and stuffy bunch of goofs there are. They had little interest in actual riding for a purpose but only for some idealistic "bicycle revolution" that only had 2 goals, piss off everyone else and soak up as much money as possible. They were like art students with a government charge card. From them, I learned to hate bicycle activists.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:55 am
 


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Aren't you currently a mall cop trying to learn how to be a real cop?


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Zipperfish Zipperfish:
And once again the right demonstrates so nicely on this thread why they hate freedom so much. There is nothing they cheer louder for than the arbitrary use of force by the state security apparatus. If this were China and some guy who'd been bad-mouthing the Revolution was being hauled away for re-education it would be the same lot of you cheering as the batons came down.


Ok, my penny's worth.
The cop is an idiot and if he was a cop in Ontario he would be charged with assault and there would be Police Act charges to follow.

What did he think would happen when he pushed a guy off a bike?
The victim obviously was unnecessarily injured.

The cop is a loser, and I'm sorry this action is indefensible. Anybody defending this guys actions needs to take a second look at why they think this conduct is acceptable, because it’s quite obviously not.

I do agree that these middle class activists are total wankers (you should all watch the video of them terrorising some old disabled guy and his wife) but being a wanker doesn't mean you should be assaulted by the police when you protest.
Protest is legal, even if it is a pain in the arse for the cops, it’s always been a part of the job. Deal with it or get another job.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:37 am
 


EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
And once again the right demonstrates so nicely on this thread why they hate freedom so much. There is nothing they cheer louder for than the arbitrary use of force by the state security apparatus. If this were China and some guy who'd been bad-mouthing the Revolution was being hauled away for re-education it would be the same lot of you cheering as the batons came down.


Ok, my penny's worth.
The cop is an idiot and if he was a cop in Ontario he would be charged with assault and there would be Police Act charges to follow.

What did he think would happen when he pushed a guy off a bike?
The victim obviously was unnecessarily injured.

The cop is a loser, and I'm sorry this action is indefensible. Anybody defending this guys actions needs to take a second look at why they think this conduct is acceptable, because it’s quite obviously not.

I do agree that these middle class activists are total wankers (you should all watch the video of them terrorising some old disabled guy and his wife) but being a wanker doesn't mean you should be assaulted by the police when you protest.
Protest is legal, even if it is a pain in the arse for the cops, it’s always been a part of the job. Deal with it or get another job.


Yeah, that about sums it up for me. Once you start tacitly accepting that being a protester is licence for assault, it's a slippery slope.

And you're right--it is indefensible. Do I have some sympathy for the cop? A little--police are goaded and provoked constantly at these protests. Who knows what happened right before. That said, sorry but we hold cops to a higher standard than we hold protesters.


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Gunnair Gunnair:
Heavy_Metal Heavy_Metal:
hahaha sweet....tree hugger...


Aren't you currently a mall cop trying to learn how to be a real cop?


HM? Really? I always pictured him as a bit of an anarchist.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:46 am
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Gunnair Gunnair:
Heavy_Metal Heavy_Metal:
hahaha sweet....tree hugger...


Aren't you currently a mall cop trying to learn how to be a real cop?


HM? Really? I always pictured him as a bit of an anarchist.


Check out his rant in the five cent solution. Definately a mall cop with some post secondary education.


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Wiki on Crit mass

DN: NYPD Attempts To Criminalize Bike Riders Taking Part in Critical Mass
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AMY GOODMAN: Norman Siegel, you’re a long-time civil liberties lawyer. What is going on here? What about the lawsuit saying that the group TIME’S UP! cannot publicly—or individuals cannot publicly talk about these events?

NORMAN SIEGEL: I think it’s very troubling. It’s the first time that I’m aware of where the City of New York is trying to enjoin protest activity. I think it has huge ramifications for activists, if the city can prevail on this. The implication would be that activists could not publicize any form of civil disobedience. Just think of Dr. King and the Civil Rights Movement not being able to publicize people coming together to sit in at the Greensboro lunch counters in the early ‘60s. I think we will prevail in the state court because it’s a prior restraint on free speech, and the premise is vacuous. The premise is that they can’t publicize an unlawful activity. No court of law has yet said, one, you need a permit to ride in the streets of New York, or two, no court has said that you need a permit from the Parks Department for 20 or more people to just stand in the park. So, we’ll vigorously defend it, just as we did in the federal court, where the City was unsuccessful on the permit with regard to riding in the streets, but now this new issue should concern not just activists, but people all across the political spectrum. If the City of New York can get away with muzzling people from speaking about gathering to do a protest activity, we’ve lost something very precious in America.

NORMAN SIEGEL: We now have about 23 days to respond to the City’s papers. This time we go to the State Court. Previously, on two of the three arguments, the arguments with regard to the permit to ride in the street, the permit to gather in Union Square Park, the City made those arguments in the Federal Court. The judge did not accept their arguments and said if you want to make the arguments, go to State Court. So the City is now going to State Court. We’ll vigorously defend it, and with regard to the third claim, which I mentioned before, all New Yorkers, especially people in the middle of the political spectrum, must begin to speak up because once you allow the police in a democratic society to take the law into their own hands, arguing that you need a permit, when in fact no court of law has said that, we’re in trouble. The premise is, I have a right to go on a public street and make a speech because I have a First Amendment right to do that. I don’t need the government’s permission to make that speech on a soap box on the corner of the street or the City of New York. Likewise, bike riders don’t need permits to ride through the streets. They do have to obey the law, which means they have to obey traffic rules and regulations. If bike riders go through red lights, the police at that point can stop them and do what they do with a car, give them a summons, but all of this activity the last six months of arresting people, seizing the bikes, in my opinion, it’s without legal basis, it’s unconstitutional, and again, New Yorkers must begin to ask the Mayor of the City of New York and the Police Commissioner why are they engaged this campaign? Finally, Amy, we’re going to do a Freedom Of Information to find out how much this is costing the taxpayers, because the last Friday of each month, there are so many police officers. On Friday night they had had two helicopters. They had lots of scooters. They had vans. This just doesn’t make any sense.


The Current: 04/08/2008: Foot Traffic MP3

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Even if the price of gas is in the stratosphere, the car is still king in North American cities. But now, more and more cities are creating spaces catering exclusively to pedestrians. The Current took a closer look at this issue and how it works in Montreal, which is one of Canada's busiest cities.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:35 pm
 


Gunnair Gunnair:
Heavy_Metal Heavy_Metal:
hahaha sweet....tree hugger...


Aren't you currently a mall cop trying to learn how to be a real cop?


:lol: yup :lol:

....and i just love you people who think calling me a mall cop is derogatory....


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:39 pm
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Gunnair Gunnair:
Heavy_Metal Heavy_Metal:
hahaha sweet....tree hugger...


Aren't you currently a mall cop trying to learn how to be a real cop?


HM? Really? I always pictured him as a bit of an anarchist.


...what you can't be a mall cop and an anarchist.... :twisted:


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EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
And once again the right demonstrates so nicely on this thread why they hate freedom so much. There is nothing they cheer louder for than the arbitrary use of force by the state security apparatus. If this were China and some guy who'd been bad-mouthing the Revolution was being hauled away for re-education it would be the same lot of you cheering as the batons came down.


Ok, my penny's worth.
The cop is an idiot and if he was a cop in Ontario he would be charged with assault and there would be Police Act charges to follow.

What did he think would happen when he pushed a guy off a bike?
The victim obviously was unnecessarily injured.

The cop is a loser, and I'm sorry this action is indefensible. Anybody defending this guys actions needs to take a second look at why they think this conduct is acceptable, because it’s quite obviously not.

I do agree that these middle class activists are total wankers (you should all watch the video of them terrorising some old disabled guy and his wife) but being a wanker doesn't mean you should be assaulted by the police when you protest.
Protest is legal, even if it is a pain in the arse for the cops, it’s always been a part of the job. Deal with it or get another job.

The cyclist was an Al-Qaida operative with weapons of mass destruction cleverly concealed in the frame of his bike.The cop saved NYC from being wiped off the map. :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:51 pm
 


We didn't see what this cyclist was doing before he entered the frames. Perhaps he had clipped someone further down the street, and the cop was just stopping him.


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