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[romanP]

ridenrain ridenrain:

In most of the civilized world , cyclists must yield to pedestrians.
Obviously the officer was hurrying to the curb on official business and the cyclist tried to swerve around him instead of slowing down as was the correct thing to do. The cyclist was in the wrong.

Are you seriously making this argument? It's quite clear the cop sees the guy coming and doesn't start moving until he's getting close, at which point he very deliberately steps toward the bicycle to shove the rider onto the sidewalk.

But, of course, being a gigantic asshole, you would try to argue that a cop beating up a cyclist is the right thing to do.

[ridenrain]

The law is clear that the cyclists must stop for peds. With speed comes the responsibility.
What if that weren't a cop but a frightened child running accross the street? Would the cyclist still be right in not stopping?

If you were on the bicycle and saw that big goon timing you, would you try to ride in front of him? If the bicycle nazy stopped and let the cop go ahead, as the law says, do you believe the cop would have still checked him?

The bicyclist was being arogant and he paid for it. The rookie cops mistake was doing that infront of a camera.

[Pseudonym]

I don't know. It seems fairly apparent from the video that the policeman was looking at the cyclist and moved to intercept him. The officer needs to have a good explanation for his behavior in these circumstances.


Nice hit though.

[romanP]

ridenrain ridenrain:

The law is clear that the cyclists must stop for peds.

The law does not say that cyclists must stop for pedestrians that are walking into the path of cyclists in order to shove them onto the sidewalk. That's an abuse of the law and you know it.

$1:

What if that weren't a cop but a frightened child running accross the street? Would the cyclist still be right in not stopping?

There was no frightened child running across the street, so that's totally irrelevant. The cop makes a deliberate movement to push over the cyclist. There is really no defending the cop here. He got his badge taken away for a reason.

$1:

If you were on the bicycle and saw that big goon timing you, would you try to ride in front of him?

The cyclist is clearly trying to avoid the path of the cop, who is clearly trying to get in his way so he can shove him onto the sidewalk.

$1:

If the bicycle nazy stopped and let the cop go ahead, as the law says, do you believe the cop would have still checked him?

That situation is irrelevant because the cop isn't trying to get to the sidewalk, he's trying to get in the way of the cyclist so that he can shove the cyclist onto the sidewalk.

$1:

The bicyclist was being arogant and he paid for it. The rookie cops mistake was doing that infront of a camera.

Ah, so abuse of the law is okay as long as it doesn't happen in front of a camera. I'll keep that in mind next to you have some lame gripe about the Conservatives not getting away with some bullshit while they point their fingers at the Liberals.

[saturn_656]

I don't have much sympathy for these Critical Mass types, they break so many road rules with their mob it isn't funny. For instance one tactic they use to keep the mass of cyclists together, a few cyclists obstruct traffic that has the right of way so the other cyclists can rip illegally through red lights.

The biker got pwned.

[emart]

i think it is unfair to say all critical mass cyclists are jerks. yes, some of them probably are, but many others are not. and i think that the officer in the video did react much more violently than what the situation called for. he could have grabbed the bike by the handlebars, stopped the cyclist without throwing him off, and made his point.

[snuggles61]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

I don't have much sympathy for these Critical Mass types, they break so many road rules with their mob it isn't funny. For instance one tactic they use to keep the mass of cyclists together, a few cyclists obstruct traffic that has the right of way so the other cyclists can rip illegally through red lights.

The biker got pwned.

I personally think the Critical Mass are a bunch of space cadets.But even space cadets are entitled to protection of the law.I just wish they'd make strict laws with stiff fines for renegade bicyclists.

[romanP]

emart emart:

i think it is unfair to say all critical mass cyclists are jerks. yes, some of them probably are, but many others are not. and i think that the officer in the video did react much more violently than what the situation called for. he could have grabbed the bike by the handlebars, stopped the cyclist without throwing him off, and made his point.

There was no reason for the cop to do anything. He is in the wrong, without any doubt at all.

[ridenrain]

$1:

Section 1231. Traffic laws apply to persons riding bicycles.

Every person riding a bicycle upon a roadway shall be granted all of the rights and shall be subject to all of the duties applicable to the driver of a vehicle by this title, except as to special regulations in this article and except as to those provisions of this title which by their nature can have no application.


Section 1146. Drivers to exercise due care.

Notwithstanding the provisions of any other law to the contrary, every driver of a vehicle shall exercise due care to avoid colliding with any bicyclist, pedestrian or domestic animal upon any roadway and shall give warning by sounding the horn when necessary.

Section 1234. Riding on roadways, shoulders, bicycle lanes and bicycle paths.

(a) Upon all roadways, any bicycle shall be driven either on a usable bicycle lane or, if a usable bicycle lane has not been provided, near the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway or upon a usable right- hand shoulder in such a manner as to prevent undue interference with the flow of traffic except when preparing for a left turn or when reasonably necessary to avoid conditions that would make it unsafe to continue along near the right-hand curb or edge. Conditions to be taken into consideration include, but are not limited to, fixed or moving objects, vehicles, bicycles, pedestrians, animals, surface hazards or traffic lanes too narrow for a bicycle and a vehicle to travel safely side-by-side within the lane.
(b) Persons riding bicycles upon a roadway shall not ride more than two abreast. Persons riding bicycles upon a shoulder, bicycle lane or bicycle path intended for the use of bicycles may ride two or more abreast if sufficient space is available, except when passing a vehicle, bicycle or pedestrian standing or proceeding along such shoulder, lane or path, persons riding bicycles shall ride single file. Persons riding bicycles upon a roadway shall ride single file when being overtaken by another vehicle.
(c) Any person operating a bicycle who is entering the roadway from a private road, driveway, alley or over a curb shall come to a full stop before entering the roadway.

http://wings.buffalo.edu/law/bclc/web/N ... ybikes.htm

No previsions exist in the vehicle code for civil unrest or wanton disreguard of safety. The cop could just as easy stopped this man and given him a ticket and he would have been justified in doing so.
The check was just a field expedient substitute.

[CanAm1]

Very nice check! Could definetly play for the Rangers this year.

[Zipperfish]

And once again the right demonstrates so nicely on this thread why they hate freedom so much. There is nothing they cheer louder for than the arbitrary use of force by the state security apparatus. If this were China and some guy who'd been bad-mouthing the Revolution was being hauled away for re-education it would be the same lot of you cheering as the batons came down.

[romanP]

...or if it were a woman set on fire for being raped.

[bootlegga]

Regina Regina:

And in a related news story, the New York Rangers are trying to sign a local stay at home defenseman who has recently become available.

[bootlegga]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

And once again the right demonstrates so nicely on this thread why they hate freedom so much. There is nothing they cheer louder for than the arbitrary use of force by the state security apparatus. If this were China and some guy who'd been bad-mouthing the Revolution was being hauled away for re-education it would be the same lot of you cheering as the batons came down.

No, RR and the others would be criticizing the state security apparatus for bashing the fellow on the head. In their world, US/western police forces are always right and Chinese police forces are always evil.

Still, good point!