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Rude, just rude.

[Mustang1]

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

Riiiiight, so the people who spend years of their lives educating themselves about how to teach our children and only after years of tedious work do they finally get the chance to teach our children, they're idiots? Riiiiiiight...

And I'm siding with Mustang1 here...All throughout Junior High and High School, there was never a year or semester that didn't pass by without talking in detail about one of Canada's Great Wars.

The Harris curriculum is a good one for history content, you're right. This myth, often perpetuated by those completely unaware, is that it's the school system, but if that's the case (which it's not) then I guess it's also the CATHOLIC system in Ontario that deserves the blame AND private schools too!


It's not the public, separate or private system (or universities, for that matter) insomuch as it's uninformed people and social misfits that commit these acts. And remember, some here bitch and whine when the state becomes involved in their lives, but rally to it when it doesn't support their worldviews. Interesting, huh?

[Arctic_Menace]

$1:

insomuch as it's uninformed people and social misfits that commit these acts.

$1:

And remember, some here bitch and whine when the state becomes involved in their lives, but rally to it when it doesn't support their worldviews. Interesting, huh?

That would be a little thing called hypocrisy, I believe...

Hence why I tend to avoid those whole "Government should stop interfering with our lives" threads and subjects...

[ridenrain]

If the Dominion Institute's 2003 military history survey is any indication, that curriculum isn't working out very well.

http://www.thestar.com/comment/columnis ... cle/231536

[hwacker]

Yeah and teachers never introduce there own tripe into anything. Na never !!!!!!!!!!

Both of you are delusional.

[Arctic_Menace]

hwacker hwacker:

Yeah and teachers never introduce there own tripe into anything. Na never !!!!!!!!!!

Both of you are delusional.

Go back and re-read what Mustang1 said, dude.

Also, while each teacher is different and approaches the curriculum in varying ways, they are still obligated to follow it.

[hwacker]

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

hwacker hwacker:

Yeah and teachers never introduce there own tripe into anything. Na never !!!!!!!!!!

Both of you are delusional.

Go back and re-read what Mustang1 said, dude.

Also, while each teacher is different and approaches the curriculum in varying ways, they are still obligated to follow it.

I skim what he says, always. He’s a big teachers can't do anything wrong guy. Kinda like he's one of the clan.

[Mustang1]

ridenrain ridenrain:

If the Dominion Institute's 2003 military history survey is any indication, that curriculum isn't working out very well.

http://www.thestar.com/comment/columnis ... cle/231536

It still doesn't mean it's not IN the curriculum nor does it mean it's not being delivered.

Oops...i guess you missed this part, it was a nation survey, and the curriculum is provincial (I guess you'd fail the part about governmental jurisdiction) so it's hardly Ontario's sole blame. At least they're doing something to combat it.

And the fact that YOU are pointing out other's gaps in Canadian history and politics is pure irony!!!

[Mustang1]

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

hwacker hwacker:

Yeah and teachers never introduce there own tripe into anything. Na never !!!!!!!!!!

Both of you are delusional.

Go back and re-read what Mustang1 said, dude.

Also, while each teacher is different and approaches the curriculum in varying ways, they are still obligated to follow it.

I do know some teachers and here's the interesting thing - they all come from varying ideological viewpoints - and they all follow the curriculum (and in history and civic's case, it's a Harris one)

Whether some here get it or not is immaterial - it's objective fact and it doesn't need endorsement for it to be truth

[Choban]

I don't even know what to say about this, disgusting is what comes to mind.

[Choban]

Mustang1 Mustang1:

CanAm1 CanAm1:

The media hates the military and the liberal school teachers are pushing their anti military agenda in schools. Look a military is a nessecary thing for any nation to have. If you don't stand up for yourself you will be run over. But there is definetly blame to be handed out to the media and school faculties.

Really? In Ontario - the biggest educational jurisdiction in the country - the curriculum was passed under a Conservative government with a strong emphasis on military history.

I think we need to put this little myth to rest.

This is an incident perpetrated by idiots and social misfits...

I agree, My Dad (ex military) worked at Calgary's Juno Academy. They are structured on Military history and are a feeder school into the military/police force/ ems ect... Blame social radicals and anarchists who are misinformed and misdirected.
What do Korean war vets have to do with today's conflicts? Nothing, respect the sacrifice they made. and I've said before, I coulkd care less if people support the war, but as a nation we MUST support the troops who have to fight it.

[BartSimpson]

CanAm1 CanAm1:

Nobody wants war but you better have a military to defend your freedoms. Some idiot lawyer or the courts will not defend you when your nation is subjugated and told your courts and laws are no longer valid.

I'm thinking a whole hell of a lot of these people anymore are not worth the blood being shed to defend them and that they deserve to be subjugated.

When the muslims eventually take over my one solace is that the whole anti-west, anti-religion crowd will be the first ones to reap what they have sown.

[Tricks]

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

Riiiiight, so the people who spend years of their lives educating themselves about how to teach our children and only after years of tedious work do they finally get the chance to teach our children, they're idiots? Riiiiiiight...

Many of them are. Like 85% of the ones I had throughout school.

[Tricks]

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

hwacker hwacker:

Yeah and teachers never introduce there own tripe into anything. Na never !!!!!!!!!!

Both of you are delusional.

Go back and re-read what Mustang1 said, dude.

Also, while each teacher is different and approaches the curriculum in varying ways, they are still obligated to follow it.

They can follow it, but put their own spin on it. We were taught about the Atomic bombs, but the Teacher can spin it to look bad.

[Choban]

This seems to have turned into a blame game on the media and schools. Honestly it is just a total lack of respect.
Blame parents for not imparting any values in their children, this isn't a schools responsability. It is a sad thing that these people have no respect for the history of the country they live in, but to blame educators and the media is misguided in itself.
Whos to say it wasn't immigrants or foreigners?
I also must say that my wife is an educator and the school she works for has a rich and comprehensive history program and always holding a wonderful Remembrance Day ceremony. Also there are former students who have fought or are fighting in wars and speak regularily at the school.
As far a the media goes, well it depends on what paper you read or which station you get your news from, I agree that media is not impartial, but are you reading a conservative or a liberal paper.
It is up to the reader to interpret what they are reading and things can be vastly misunderstood when someone with poor reading skills misunderstands what they see.