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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:48 am
 


saturn_656 saturn_656:
Even once the government openly admits Prism's existence, the tech companies have the gall to plead ignorance?


More or less, the confluence of the Patriot Act and the way this administration is enforcing the Espionage Acts requires them to plead ignorance because if they don't they can be arrested and held without trial for the rest of their natural lives.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:49 am
 


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I'd be surprise if the Republicans would want to scrap this, unless they think that promise would help them to win the next election.


The Republicans won't. The Tea Party will.


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
Even once the government openly admits Prism's existence, the tech companies have the gall to plead ignorance?


More or less, the confluence of the Patriot Act and the way this administration is enforcing the Espionage Acts requires them to plead ignorance because if they don't they can be arrested and held without trial for the rest of their natural lives.


I don't think their users will cut them any slack based on this. They have proven themselves unable to secure my personal data against intrusion. I seriously doubt the NSA cares about my emails from future shop or amazon but that isn't the point.

Chrome and Gmail are history for me and the 'droid tablet is now in my daughters toy box.

Next stop is my cell provider to switch to Blackberry. My relationship with these outfits will be brought to an end as soon as feasible. MS will be the most difficult cord to cut.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:15 am
 


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So who's left then? Apple is in on this too. Same with Microsoft.


Blackberry. Haven't heard anything about them whoring themselves out to the NSA yet.

Windows I can replace with Linux, for the most part.

Which could explain the negative coverage BlackBerry/RIM has been receiving via the lame stream media etc through out the years.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:10 pm
 


"I am OUTRAGED that the government is monitoring my phone activities! It's just like George fucking Orwell said in 1984!", says a generation of narcissistic smartphone-addicted fuckwits that gladly and voluntarily Tweets and Facebooks every fucking stupid thought that they have.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:02 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
raydan raydan:
I'd be surprise if the Republicans would want to scrap this, unless they think that promise would help them to win the next election.


The Republicans won't. The Tea Party will.


Absolutely. So knowing that whataya think? Is there anybody but Paul or Cruz left out there since Rubio turn-coated on amnesty, and Christie turned out to be a big fat RINO? Where will us tea party types look for a savior? I'm thinking with issues like this one Rand is looking better everyday.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:23 pm
 


The identity of the NSA whistle-blower has been revealed. He came forward on his own and gave an interview to the Guardian.



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:37 pm
 


http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/06/09/10-t ... d-snowden/

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The whistleblower who brought to light the secret U.S. surveillance program—collecting telephone data from millions of American citizens and Internet data from foreigners—has come forward. The Guardian and Washington Post revealed on Sunday that Edward Snowden was their source for the massive leak U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) data.

“I have no intention of hiding who I am because I know I have done nothing wrong,” he told the Guardian.

Here are 10 things we know about Snowden so far:

1. He is 29 years old and grew up in Elizabeth City, North Carolina. He later moved to Maryland with his family, according to The Guardian, near NSA headquarters. Most recently, he lived in Hawaii with his girlfriend.

2. Snowden works for Booz Allen Hamilton, a major American security contractor, as an infrastructure analyst for the NSA. In a brief statement with regards to the leaked files, the company wrote:

Booz Allen can confirm that Edward Snowden, 29, has been an employee of our firm for less than 3 months, assigned to a team in Hawaii. News reports that this individual has claimed to have leaked classified information are shocking, and if accurate, this action represents a grave violation of the code of conduct and core values of our firm. We will work closely with our clients and authorities in their investigation of this matter.

3. His was making a salary of roughly $200,000, according to various reports.

4. He is a former technical officer with the CIA, according to the Guardian. He also previously worked with Dell Inc.

5. He told the Washington Post that he does not have a high school diploma, but reports say he earned a GED.

6. He said he had “full access to the full rosters of everyone working at the NSA, the entire intelligence community, and undercover assets all around the world.”

7. According to the Atlantic, Snowden tried to join the U.S. Army Special Forces.

8. He didn’t vote for Obama in 2008. (He didn’t vote for John McCain either.) He told the Guardian he voted for a third party, but didn’t say which one.

9. According to Campaignmoney.com, an Edward Snowden donated $500 to Ron Paul’s presidential bid in 2012. Ron Paul is a staunch libertarian who lost the nomination of the Republican Party in favour of Mitt Romney.

10. Snowden is seeking asylum, ideally in Iceland, but is now staying in Hong Kong. He is hoping to avoid extradition to the United States. In an interview over the course of several days with The Guardian, he said: “I think it is really tragic that an American has to move to a place that has a reputation for less freedom. Still, Hong Kong has a reputation for freedom in spite of the People’s Republic of China. It has a strong tradition of free speech.”


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:43 pm
 


He'll still be lynched, even if what he leaked wasn't classified. :(


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:01 pm
 




Director of National Intelligence Clapper lying to Senate Intelligence Committee (specifically Senator Ron Wyden) on the subject of collection of data on Americans on March 12, 2013.

Keep in mind the NSA has been found to have been collecting Americans phone records for years prior. Never mind what they garnered from the Microsoft, Google, Yahoo, Facebook, etc.

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Clapper was testifying before the Senate Intelligence Committee March 12 of this year when he was asked by Wyden:

"Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?"

"No, sir," Clapper replied.

Wyden seemed surprised by this: "It does not?"

"Not wittingly," answers Clapper, pensively rubbing his forehead as he talks. "There are cases where they could inadvertently, perhaps, collect, but not wittingly."


The Americans have some serious house cleaning that needed to be done yesterday.


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