[Newsbot]

Title: US mom arraigned on murder charge in microwave death of baby, could face death penalty
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: andyt
Date: 2011-06-24 00:32:03

[Guy_Fawkes]

I think they should nuke her.

[CrazyNewfie]

As far as I am concerned you are wrong. The death penalty is a crock of s..., by todays laws the best thing we could do is throw her in a cell for the next 60 years.
Wow, I just started reading through the comments on the story, and there are a lot of people who think its best to just kill. Don't get me wrong, what this woman did was sick, disgusting, revolting, just to name a few emations. BUT, if I was given the choice, the death penalty or life in prison, I would pick the death penalty. It's a release, these people are all wanting this woman released from her pain, and the misery and torture she would go through being locked up for 50-60 years. Trust me, there's more punishment in being locked up for eternity then there is in a quick get out of jail dead card.

[Guy_Fawkes]

What about the cost of housing and caring for this woman for the next 50-60 years? Prison is supposed to be a reform for criminals, this wasnt a crime of passion this was calculated and cruel murder of a child. Normally I would be with you Newf, but in certain cases I think its best some people are executed.

[Gunnair]

Possible post partum depresion issue.

[ccga3359]

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

What about the cost of housing and caring for this woman for the next 50-60 years?

Doesn't the average execution with all automatic appeals and such cost about $1 million?

[CrazyNewfie]

ccga3359
I've heard that before. I was back in college 2 years ago and someone in the class did a report on the death penalty, and according to his research it can cost just as much or more to execute someone as it would be to just lock them away.
@Guy_Fawkes
I know what you're saying, trust me my first thought was to find an adult sized microwave we could toss her in, give her a couple of days or so in it before we turn it on just to torture her emotions, and then turn on the juice. But I try and let those emotions pass and think about it a different way. What brought this woman to this point? Maybe she's just a crazy b1t

[CrazyNewfie]

ccga3359
I've heard that before. I was back in college 2 years ago and someone in the class did a report on the death penalty, and according to his research it can cost just as much or more to execute someone as it would be to just lock them away.
@Guy_Fawkes
I know what you're saying, trust me my first thought was to find an adult sized microwave we could toss her in, give her a couple of days or so in it before we turn it on just to torture her emotions, and then turn on the juice. But I try and let those emotions pass and think about it a different way. What brought this woman to this point? Maybe she's just a crazy b.... and should be put down, or maybe she was raped and molested by her father, tossed on to the streets to be a hooker at 13, and pretty much turned into what we see. We don't know, and it's easy to judge when you haven't walked in someone elses shoes. Just food for thought.

[DanSC]

ccga3359 ccga3359:

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

What about the cost of housing and caring for this woman for the next 50-60 years?

Doesn't the average execution with all automatic appeals and such cost about $1 million?

Yes. In the States, with the many levels of appeals courts and expensive lawyer fees for every stage of appeals, getting and keeping a death sentence is much more expensive for the state than life without parole in solitary confinement in a maximum security prison.

Yet oddly enough, some states with the death penalty (not every state has it) don't have life without parole, so the prosecution has to choose execution or potentially releasing the convicted after 10-20 years. It's all very odd.

[BartSimpson]

This happened here in Sacramento and people here are just disgusted.

Regarding the death penalty, yes it is expensive but sometimes it's well worth it.

[Choban]

I'm guessing there will be an insanity plea, she'll be deemed NCR and put in a phsyc institution.

[BartSimpson]

Choban Choban:

I'm guessing there will be an insanity plea, she'll be deemed NCR and put in a phsyc institution.

Public sentiment down here and our merciless District Attorney Jan Scully won't accept an insanity plea.

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/06/23/3721079/microwave.html

$1:

Detectives also called upon the expertise of Dr. Lin Zhang, an associate professor of neurology at the UC Davis School of Medicine.

In an interview with The Bee, Zhang said it would be "difficult or impossible" for a person who suffered "tonic-clonic" type seizures, as Yang apparently did, to use a microwave during or after an episode.

"It would be a huge stretch," he said.

She full of BS and she's seriously looking at the death penalty for torturing the baby to death.

[Choban]

$1:

District Attorney Jan Scully won't accept an insanity plea

The DA doesn't have to accept it, she (the offender) just needs a shrink to correlate it and good enough defense lawyer to push it. Personally I hoppe she burns and if there is really a hell burns some more. Perhaps my view is just jaded from seeing the Canadian Justice Sysyem at work.

[andyt]

Good point. The DA dosen't have to accept a plea bargain based on insanity. But she can plead innocent and them make the case she was insane. Very high standard of proof tho. They seem to make it a lot tougher in the US than here. The baby is 6 weeks old, so here she could go for infanticide and get probation or a couple of years, because her hormones meant she couldn't help herself.

[BartSimpson]

If the perp pleads insanity then Scully won't let her get away with it.

The trick is that the fire department was on scene first and they do a required medical evaluation and they said the woman was alert and responsive at that time. This was before anyone suggested a criminal prosecution.

It's this piece of evidence/testimony that's going to sway a jury against an insanity defense.