[Tricks]

I hadn't heard of this. He left his outpost and got captured and some soldiers were wounded (killed?) looking for him? That the gist of it?

[Freakinoldguy]

Tricks Tricks:

I hadn't heard of this. He left his outpost and got captured and some soldiers were wounded (killed?) looking for him? That the gist of it?

Here's the CliffsNotes version of Bergdahl's outstanding military career. You can read it and form your own opinion on this piece of work.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/19/us/bowe-b ... index.html


But here's the real issue in this case. His actions caused the death of 6 US soldiers who otherwise wouldn't have been put in harms way. But of course his case became political which essentially tried to derail any real investigations into those actions especially, so any potential embarrassments from them wouldn't reflect on the idiot who hailed him a hero.

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Pentagon officials have suggested that Bergdahl will likely not be charged with any violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, believing that five years in Taliban custody was punishment enough.

Read all the way to the bottom and you'll see the bio's of the six real hero's who died trying to find this deserter who they incorrectly thought had been abducted.


http://time.com/2809352/bowe-bergdahl-d ... y-taliban/

[herbie]

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Good to know that you think justice shouldn't include any ramifications for committing a crime and do tell why you think the Army letting this deserter walk was the best thing for for them?

Exactly what I said. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Over and done.
What makes you think there were no ramifications? The fact they didn't have a big show trial and waste money locking him up?

[Freakinoldguy]

herbie herbie:

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Good to know that you think justice shouldn't include any ramifications for committing a crime and do tell why you think the Army letting this deserter walk was the best thing for for them?

Exactly what I said. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Over and done.
What makes you think there were no ramifications? The fact they didn't have a big show trial and waste money locking him up?

What ramifications? His years of self induced captivity - nope, that's between him and his captors. But if you want to talk about ramifications for his precapture actions, there were definitely ramifications, just not for him. There were very severe ramifications for the 6 soldiers who died looking for him and for their families.

As for wasting money by locking him up. Given that it isn't the pansy Canadian Prison system, I'm pretty sure that one more prisoner at Fort Leavenworth Kansas wouldn't have cost the US gov't anywhere near the amount of money you're trying to make it sound like. So that's a non starter.

I'll say this one more time. Justice has nothing to do with Bowe Bergdahls sentencing or case for that matter because, it became a political football on the day that the President called him a "hero". Since then the Pentagon has been trying to make this shit show go away quietly and not because they wanted justice or to benefit the military but, simply to save the current and soon to be former President from a very embarrassing situation.

[herbie]

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As for wasting money by locking him up. Given that it isn't the pansy Canadian Prison system, I'm pretty sure that one more prisoner at Fort Leavenworth Kansas wouldn't have cost the US gov't anywhere near the amount of money you're trying to make it sound like. So that's a non starter.

If it cost 12c to lock him up, that's too much. And like I said, it's the army's job to run efficiently not to make guys like you feel happy.

[Freakinoldguy]

herbie herbie:

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As for wasting money by locking him up. Given that it isn't the pansy Canadian Prison system, I'm pretty sure that one more prisoner at Fort Leavenworth Kansas wouldn't have cost the US gov't anywhere near the amount of money you're trying to make it sound like. So that's a non starter.

If it cost 12c to lock him up, that's too much. And like I said, it's the army's job to run efficiently not to make guys like you feel happy.

I suppose that's your informed opinion and your welcome to it but as a veteran I have seen what military justice is "supposed" to be and the reasons for why it is a much harsher system than the civilian version. So this decision in my informed opinion is completely wrong.

What happened here is nothing more than a political decision that was made long before Bergdahl was ever sent to trial and it was done to avoid embarrassing an administration that hailed a coward as a hero.

The only thing you got right though was that the US Military Justice system doesn't have to make me or people like me happy. But given their lack of will and sense of justice, I can see alot of unhappy people especially the ones in Bergdah's unit who had to watch their friends being sent home in body bags. I can also see alot of letters being written to Congressmen and Senators expressing peoples distaste in this decision but hey, if the military chose not to make people like me happy I'm sure that these elected officials will blindly follow suit, especially since unlike Canada there's a very strong veterans lobby in the US.

Although on the flip side, the Court Martial's decision seems to have made you and alot of others just like you happy.

[BeaverFever]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

herbie herbie:

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Good to know that you think justice shouldn't include any ramifications for committing a crime and do tell why you think the Army letting this deserter walk was the best thing for for them?

Exactly what I said. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Over and done.
What makes you think there were no ramifications? The fact they didn't have a big show trial and waste money locking him up?

What ramifications? His years of self induced captivity - nope, that's between him and his captors. But if you want to talk about ramifications for his precapture actions, there were definitely ramifications, just not for him. There were very severe ramifications for the 6 soldiers who died looking for him and for their families.

As for wasting money by locking him up. Given that it isn't the pansy Canadian Prison system, I'm pretty sure that one more prisoner at Fort Leavenworth Kansas wouldn't have cost the US gov't anywhere near the amount of money you're trying to make it sound like. So that's a non starter.

I'll say this one more time. Justice has nothing to do with Bowe Bergdahls sentencing or case for that matter because, it became a political football on the day that the President called him a "hero". Since then the Pentagon has been trying to make this shit show go away quietly and not because they wanted justice or to benefit the military but, simply to save the current and soon to be former President from a very embarrassing situation.

The guy was imprisoned and tortured by the Taliban for five years, that sure sounds like ramifications to me.

[stratos]

xerxes xerxes:

It’s still a dishonourable discharge. He won’t get any more benefits from the army, or pension or a military funeral. It’s not nothing.

1) He didn't serve long enough to qualify for benefits

2) No Pension for the small amount of time he serverd

3) You still pay for the funeral just have the honor guard and such there if you want.

So the LOSS of these things are not harsh and actually most of what you sited is not something he was entitled to anyways. Hardest thing for him will be finding a job outside of flipping burgers.

[stratos]

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The guy was imprisoned and tortured by the Taliban for five years, that sure sounds like ramifications to me.

And that would not have happened if he hadn't gone AWOL. His actions got 6 others killed. Sad to say another person not being held accountable for their action and the ramifications that their actions caused.

Curious at what point do you stop holding someone accountable for their actions Beaverfever? When it becomes politically advantageous for you to do so? You want Trump to be held accountable for things in his past, you bemoan Harveys rapes and conduct just like the left are now doing. Yet feel it's nothing to get upset about and hold the POS accountable for His actions and the deaths it caused.