[herbie]

Gonna boycott all beers with a US Brand name. Always have anyway, bleaghh brews

[Scape]

Trust takes a long time to build and can be broken in an instant. Hubris has a price.

Won't be investing one red cent in anything American as they are dead to me.

[GreenTiger]

Mr Trump needs to be in a nursing home behind a locked door.

[DrCaleb]

herbie herbie:

Gonna boycott all beers with a US Brand name. Always have anyway, bleaghh brews

I always boycotted bad beer.

Scape Scape:

Trust takes a long time to build and can be broken in an instant. Hubris has a price.

Won't be investing one red cent in anything American as they are dead to me.

I don't think they understand that some of the things that are changing are one way. One good thing is the focus on east/west trade. Once all the barriers come down, they won't go back up. That will reduce north/south trade if the tariffs are removed. Much of the fresh produce we get from California can be replaced with produce from South America or Mexico. I mean, we get citrus from Israel and South Africa! Is Florida even relevant?

Once our free trade deal with the EU is ratified by France, we won't have to deal with a partner whose word cannot be trusted. Then we just need a trade deal with the UK, and I can get my Stilton back. They will want our steel and aluminum too. And Chinese cars will overtake the big 3 in 10 years or so. Too late to stop it now.

[DrCaleb]

GreenTiger GreenTiger:

Mr Trump needs to be in a nursing home behind a locked door.

And throw away the room.

[DrCaleb]

China aims to recruit top US scientists as Trump tries to kill the CHIPS Act

[DrCaleb]

[DrCaleb]

Trudeau says call with Trump was colorful and warns trade war will continue for foreseeable future as a senior official reports usage of profanities by Trump.-CBC

[herbie]

Trudeau should call Monday and tell him now he's no longer PM just what he really thinks of him.
Hell do it on an open mike, Canada would love to hear it.

[GreenTiger]

herbie herbie:

Trudeau should call Monday and tell him now he's no longer PM just what he really thinks of him.
Hell do it on an open mike, Canada would love to hear it.

He isn't the only one.

There are a lot of us who would like to attend his funeral, drink a few beers wait 20 minutes and show him the respect he id due.

[DrCaleb]

I'm sure from the afterlife, he will fondly be looking up at us.

[DrCaleb]

Measles outbreak hits 208 cases as federal response goes off the rails

$1:

The message is in contrast to the equivocal and worrisome responses from the new US health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who is a long-time anti-vaccine advocate. Kennedy initially downplayed the outbreak, calling it "not unusual," before penning an op-ed for Fox News, in which he failed to outright recommend vaccination and instead emphasized parental choice and endorsed "good nutrition" and supplements.

$1:

In a yet more worrying sign, Reuters reported Friday afternoon that the CDC is planning to conduct a large study on whether the MMR vaccine is linked to autism. This taxpayer-funded effort would occur despite the fact that decades of research and numerous high-quality studies have already been conducted—and they have consistently disproven or found no connection between the vaccine and autism.

[DrCaleb]

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rickc rickc:

Ah I see you think a major recession is on the way. Today's stock market results would definitely back you up on that one. Huge sell off today. I'm glad I got out when I did. I got out before the election. I felt like the market was just too high. It never goes up in a straight line. It always takes breaks on the way up. It was overdue for a correction even without all the madness and uncertainty. One of the few times in my life where my timing was pretty damn good.

Yup. I have lost more than one annual income because I didn't get out soon enough. This time, I stayed out of the fast money, and went for the long term. I'm up about 20% so far this year, including these last few days.

Doesn't make up for Bre-X, and MP3.com but nothing does

rickc rickc:

I was arguing with people on Facebook

Well, there's your problem.

rickc rickc:

the other day about the snowbirds leaving and possibly not coming back. I live in an area that depends on the tourists and the snowbirds. People who do not work in tourism like to mouth off online as they believe that the drop in tourism will not affect them. They are wrong. When tourists stop coming and spending money, businesses lay off people. Those people that get laid off cut back on their spending in the non tourists areas of town. Those businesses start to layoff people. It starts a chain reaction. The city still has bills to pay. They still have schools, fire departments, and police departments to run. When sales taxes and income taxes go down, property taxes go up. Police ticket quotas go up. The city is going to get their money one way or another. The tourists can pay it, or the locals can pay it. Losing a source of revenue is never a good thing.

It's much worse than that. Yes, there are Snowbirds who will pack up and not come back, But one thing we can thank CheetoMussolin for is he has united us in a way not seen since WWII. We have been so focused on north/south trade that we didn't do much east/west. It was actually illegal for me to go to a winery in BC and bring back a case of wine! There was a Supreme court case about a guy who went from New Brunswick to Maine(?) and brought back a few cases of beer, and was charged. Now we can do that, because it's silly. We can't drive a heavy truck in Ontario and then o Manitoba because the tire standards are different. If you were a registered nurse in Quebec, you had to get you certification again to be a nurse in Saskatchewan. Insanity! But it didn't matter because we didn't trade that way.

What the US President has done is cause us to form committees to look at all this nonsense, and harmonize standard across the country to allow for the free flow of trade and labour. We'll start pipelines from the west to the east delivering oil and gas so that it can remain inside Canada and not be subject to the whims of anyone that doesn't have Canada's interests at heart.
PEI won't be dependent on a pipe that runs in from the States. Quebec can use Alberta Natural Gas instead of fuel oil from New York.

Which sound all good. But the downside for the US is that as we move trade east/west, we will be reducing it north/south. And it's not going to return. Much of the electricity on the Eastern Seaboard runs south from Ontario. If Premier Ford gets pissed off, he has said he will shut the power off 'with a smile on his face'. And he was just re-elected with that as a mandate.

So, yes, people are moving back north. People are cancelling their vacations. People will go to Cuba rather than Florida. And they are likely not returning.

People voted for the second trip on the so in Canada they can find sympathy in the dictionary between shit and syphilis.

[DrCaleb]

Forgot to add - US liquor, especially Kentucky Burbon (red state) is no longer sold in Canada.

It's all gone. Perhaps not a big percentage of their annual sales, but Ontario alone sells a billion $ in US iquor a year. It will sting.

[DrCaleb]

Trump raises Canadian steel, aluminum tariffs to 50% in retaliation for Ontario energy duties

That'll fix it!