[BRAH]

Thanos Thanos:

The important thing to remember is that the side that's trying to get Bergdahl lynched is also the side that came up with "Saddam Hussein has fully realized weapons of mass destruction and has them aimed at Main Street, USA!". They also came up with the slanders, libels, and open lies against John Kerry's service record in the Vietnam War. They invented how a national health care plan is equivalent to shipping Jews off by train to Holocaust death camps. They've spent several months now on how some mean-spirited old crank in the Nevada desert who doesn't want to pay his legal and entirely reasonable grazing fees is like, totally, equivalent to George Washington. And they also spent most of the last 18 months going on about how the Benghazi riots that tragically killed a US ambassador (with this literally being the first time ever that any of them got the slightest bit upset about something fatal happening to a gay man) were worse than 9/11.

Like Jackson Browne once wrote, I want to know who the men in the shadows are. Well, we already know who they are. We also know exactly why they're behaving this way over Bowe Bergdahl. It's just the old Potomac Two-Step once again, bombarded onto a captive populace via the machinery of cable "news", internet sleaze sites, and hate-radio programs. It's the same fucking thing all over again and, just like all the other times before, there literally is nothing at all new to see here.

Obama admin official: Hey, maybe Bergdahl’s platoon-mates are all psychopathic smear merchants


http://hotair.com/archives/2014/06/05/obama-admin-official-hey-maybe-bergdahls-platoon-mates-are-all-psychopathic-smear-merchants/
____

Sorry, the Left are Fucking Hypocrites.

[xerxes]

One heretofore nameless underling. As opposed to the entirety of the right who were for the release of Bergdahl before they were against it.

[xerxes]

$1:

“He’s said that they kept him in a shark cage in total darkness for weeks, possibly months,” said one American official. CNN reported Friday that Sergeant Bergdahl said he was held in a metal box or cage, but the officials on Saturday offered new details. He was kept there apparently as punishment for one or possibly two attempted escapes, as first reported by the Daily Beast website last week and confirmed by an American official.

“It’s safe to assume” that Sergeant Bergdahl was “held in harsh conditions,” a senior Defense Department official said Saturday. “These are Taliban, not wet nurses.” Details of other mistreatment were not released.

When the medical specialists deem Sergeant Bergdahl ready, his next step will be longer-term therapy and counseling at a military medical center in San Antonio before a carefully managed homecoming in Hailey, Idaho. At some point, he will speak by phone with his family, and be reunited with them.

Officials would not disclose if Sergeant Bergdahl has made any special requests. One thing, however, that does rub him wrong is when hospital staff call him “sergeant,” the result of two automatic promotions while a captive.

“He says, ‘Don’t call me that,’ ” said one American official. “ ‘I didn’t go before the boards. I didn’t earn it.’

[N_Fiddledog]

[Thanos]

[stratos]

What is sad is do to the political uproar by both sides this solider will probably not face a military trial for desertion. It has become such a political hotbed that I can see the current admin blocking any attempt to go to trail. Thus we will never be able to determine just what happened and if he is or is not a deserter let alone a traitor.

I'm hearing on the radio talk shows how some in congress are all upset that they were not consulted and that Obama may have broken laws. I'm not sure how he could have broken laws by not going to congress about a prisoner swap. He is the commander in chief of the US forces. As a commander it is his right and propagative to get soldiers back IMO.

[martin14]

stratos stratos:

What is sad is do to the political uproar by both sides this solider will probably not face a military trial for desertion. It has become such a political hotbed that I can see the current admin blocking any attempt to go to trail. Thus we will never be able to determine just what happened and if he is or is not a deserter let alone a traitor.

I'm hearing on the radio talk shows how some in congress are all upset that they were not consulted and that Obama may have broken laws. I'm not sure how he could have broken laws by not going to congress about a prisoner swap. He is the commander in chief of the US forces. As a commander it is his right and propagative to get soldiers back IMO.

The law being broken is his requirement to inform Congress 30 days before any transfer out of Gitmo.

This he did not do.

[Thanos]

I imagine that if President Obama had gone to Congress to inform them the GOP members would have done something to deliberately sabotage the exchange, which probably would have resulted in Bergdahl being held captive for even longer or being killed outright by his captors. At the point the current frenzy would no longer be "traded five mega-terrorists for one lousy deserter!" and instead would then be "The Obamunist deliberately got American hero murdered!".

Political triangulation and other sorts of mind-fuckery are amazing. It's like watching the corpse of a dead dog be consumed in high-speed mode by maggots.

[martin14]

Thanos Thanos:

I imagine that if President Obama had gone to Congress to inform them the GOP members would have done something to deliberately sabotage the exchange, which probably would have resulted in Bergdahl being held captive for even longer or being killed outright by his captors. At the point the current frenzy would no longer be "traded five mega-terrorists for one lousy deserter!" and instead would then be "The Obamunist deliberately got American hero murdered!".

Political triangulation and other sorts of mind-fuckery are amazing. It's like watching the corpse of a dead dog be consumed in high-speed mode by maggots.

You can imagine all the bullshit you like.


Fact is even the POTUS is required to follow the law, not just when it's convenient.

And we can all see that "Hope" and "Change" bullshit was just that.

Bullshit.

[Winnipegger]

According to the Geneva Convention, all prisoners who where citizens of Afghanistan at the time there were captured are prisoners of war. Not illegal-blah-blah-blah, just prisoners of war. As such, they must be released as soon as a declaration of ceasation of hostilities is made. That was done a long time ago. It doesn't matter what other accusations are made, all those prisoners in Gitmo who were citizens of Afghanistan at the time they were captured must be released. Does that include prisoners that Obama released?

[stratos]

martin14 martin14:

stratos stratos:

What is sad is do to the political uproar by both sides this solider will probably not face a military trial for desertion. It has become such a political hotbed that I can see the current admin blocking any attempt to go to trail. Thus we will never be able to determine just what happened and if he is or is not a deserter let alone a traitor.

I'm hearing on the radio talk shows how some in congress are all upset that they were not consulted and that Obama may have broken laws. I'm not sure how he could have broken laws by not going to congress about a prisoner swap. He is the commander in chief of the US forces. As a commander it is his right and propagative to get soldiers back IMO.

The law being broken is his requirement to inform Congress 30 days before any transfer out of Gitmo.

This he did not do.

Okay now what I was hearing on the Radio makes more sense. Thanks.

[N_Fiddledog]

Winnipegger Winnipegger:

According to the Geneva Convention, all prisoners who where citizens of Afghanistan at the time there were captured are prisoners of war. Not illegal-blah-blah-blah, just prisoners of war. As such, they must be released as soon as a declaration of ceasation of hostilities is made. That was done a long time ago. It doesn't matter what other accusations are made, all those prisoners in Gitmo who were citizens of Afghanistan at the time they were captured must be released. Does that include prisoners that Obama released?

Kind of, but not necessarily and in the case of the US there's the Military Commissions Act of 2006 to consider. I just did a quick Wiki and I still don't know for sure what immediately affects the law concerning release of unlawful combatants. You say you do. Save me some trouble give me a link. Here's where I've been so far.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlawful_combatant

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_C ... ct_of_2006

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrajudic ... ted_States

Bush declared a "war on terror". When does that end?

[BRAH]

Thanos Thanos:

Grasping at straws? As it's been pointed out many times over Obama broke the law by not notifying Congress.

Thanos Thanos:

I imagine that if President Obama had gone to Congress to inform them the GOP members would have done something to deliberately sabotage the exchange, which probably would have resulted in Bergdahl being held captive for even longer or being killed outright by his captors. At the point the current frenzy would no longer be "traded five mega-terrorists for one lousy deserter!" and instead would then be "The Obamunist deliberately got American hero murdered!".

Political triangulation and other sorts of mind-fuckery are amazing. It's like watching the corpse of a dead dog be consumed in high-speed mode by maggots.

So the Soldiers who served with Bergdahl and are speaking out and Dianne Feinstein the Senate Intelligence Chairwoman who doesn't believe Bergdahl's life was in danger are part of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, gotcha.

[N_Fiddledog]

Mistakes Bush made that Obama repeated or made worse - All of them.

Original things Obama did that made things better - NONE.

[BRAH]

martin14 martin14:

Thanos Thanos:

I imagine that if President Obama had gone to Congress to inform them the GOP members would have done something to deliberately sabotage the exchange, which probably would have resulted in Bergdahl being held captive for even longer or being killed outright by his captors. At the point the current frenzy would no longer be "traded five mega-terrorists for one lousy deserter!" and instead would then be "The Obamunist deliberately got American hero murdered!".

Political triangulation and other sorts of mind-fuckery are amazing. It's like watching the corpse of a dead dog be consumed in high-speed mode by maggots.

You can imagine all the bullshit you like.


Fact is even the POTUS is required to follow the law, not just when it's convenient.

And we can all see that "Hope" and "Change" bullshit was just that.

Bullshit.

When the Left has nothing they resort to the World of imagination with rainbows, unicorns, hope and change while bringing up the usual Reagan, Bush did this.

You know it's a bad deal with Hillary Clinton who's obviously running for POTUS is throwing Obama under the bus.