[raydan]

Just for the heck of it...

We must be VERY Conservative in Québec... you know, because of the colour on our flag.

[bootlegga]

Bodah Bodah:

Yeah, they want it red & white like the liberal NATIONAL colours, only that would be acceptable.

There, fixed it for ya!

[Jonny_C]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

But tradition still counts for something.

True enough, but traditional symbols do change.

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[bootlegga]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

Jonny_C Jonny_C:

saturn_656 saturn_656:

Who said anything about mixing up the roundels?

The red and white roundel isn't the roundel of the RCAF. How much it resembles the flag is irrelevant.

Don't get your shorts in a bunch.

All I said was I kinda liked the all-red scheme.

I think it would look better sideways with vortexes spinning off the rear.

But tradition still counts for something.

Yeah, it's not like it's called the ROYAL Canadian Air Force or anything, right? Or that our squadrons still use the same numbering format was they did in World War 2...oh wait.

We have plenty of history in the CF - just look at ranks, marching, unit names, traditions, or just about anything else.

[bootlegga]

Jonny_C Jonny_C:

saturn_656 saturn_656:

But tradition still counts for something.

True enough, but traditional symbols do change.

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Yep and that nearly killed the Conservatives of the time...

[saturn_656]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Yeah, it's not like it's called the ROYAL Canadian Air Force or anything, right? Or that our squadrons still use the same numbering format was they did in World War 2...oh wait.

We have plenty of history in the CF - just look at ranks, marching, unit names, traditions, or just about anything else.

Yeah, that was the point I was trying to make.

[commanderkai]

bootlegga bootlegga:

It has nothing to do with 'Liberal-friendly' - it has to do with our national colours. As I said previously, I don't see any blue on the flag.

Blue isn't offensive at all, it's just not one of the colours on our flag, which was originally my point.

But blue, and hell, the whole roundel, has been a part of the Royal Canadian Air Force for decades, long before Canada's national flag. The Prime Minister's aircraft is under the control of the RCAF, and, as such, they're probably going to place the roundel on the aircraft.

The blue underbelly of the aircraft might have had some oversight by Prime Minister Harper, but, the roundel was going to be there, even if the plane was painted pink and lime green.

Also, last I checked, the flag, on the tail of the aircraft, is still the standard flag of Canada.

Here's the current ensign of the RCAF, in case you were curious:

[raydan]

This discussion just sounds so silly to me.

[commanderkai]

raydan raydan:

This discussion just sounds so silly to me.

It is. Basically, it's coming down to: RCAF aircraft has RCAF roundel, causing controversy.

[martin14]

raydan raydan:

This discussion just sounds so silly to me.

Liberals can't miss a chance to whine and bitch about stuff.

[raydan]

martin14 martin14:

raydan raydan:

This discussion just sounds so silly to me.

Liberals can't miss a chance to whine and bitch about stuff.

I've been keeping score... Liberals and Conservatives are tied when it comes to bitching and whining... have been for a long time.

[saturn_656]

bootlegga bootlegga:

It has nothing to do with 'Liberal-friendly' - it has to do with our national colours. As I said previously, I don't see any blue on the flag.



Had we gone with this version, nobody would have a leg to stand on;



But we didn't, did we?

Blue isn't offensive at all, it's just not one of the colours on our flag, which was originally my point.

Blue is part of the RCAF roundel, hence the colour blue is part of the paint job of a plane painted in RCAF colours. I know there isn't any blue on the flag, but that is completely irrelevant.

I don't understand why some people have a hard time understanding this.

[bootlegga]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

bootlegga bootlegga:

Yeah, it's not like it's called the ROYAL Canadian Air Force or anything, right? Or that our squadrons still use the same numbering format was they did in World War 2...oh wait.

We have plenty of history in the CF - just look at ranks, marching, unit names, traditions, or just about anything else.

Yeah, that was the point I was trying to make.

And the point was made that traditions change. Salutes have changed in the past 50 years, as did our flag. So why not the roundel? As Jonny said, the all red one looks pretty sharp. I'd go for it simply because Red & White are the colours the WORLD associates with Canada, not red, white and blue.

You're making it sound like the roundel is the ONLY piece of history the air force has, when the fact is the CF has dozens of 'old' traditions - changing one isn't going to hurt the air force one bit.

[bootlegga]

commanderkai commanderkai:

bootlegga bootlegga:

It has nothing to do with 'Liberal-friendly' - it has to do with our national colours. As I said previously, I don't see any blue on the flag.

Blue isn't offensive at all, it's just not one of the colours on our flag, which was originally my point.

But blue, and hell, the whole roundel, has been a part of the Royal Canadian Air Force for decades, long before Canada's national flag. The Prime Minister's aircraft is under the control of the RCAF, and, as such, they're probably going to place the roundel on the aircraft.

The blue underbelly of the aircraft might have had some oversight by Prime Minister Harper, but, the roundel was going to be there, even if the plane was painted pink and lime green.

Also, last I checked, the flag, on the tail of the aircraft, is still the standard flag of Canada.

Here's the current ensign of the RCAF, in case you were curious:

I'm not objecting to the roundel and as I said originally, I don't care that they put blue on the plane. Honestly, had it just been a roundel, it wouldn't have raised an eyebrow - but as you noted, the entire belly is blue. Further the blue on the plane is much darker than the blue on the Air Force ensign (much closer to Conservative Party navy blue than Air Force powder blue).

I simply said Canada's colours are Red and White, and those two colours are what the world associates with Canada. I don't even care that it cost 30 grand or whatever (the going cost to paint a commercial airliner). I just would have preferred less blue and more red and white.

[DVC185]

Aircraft painted blue which are/were owned/operated by the CF???? Who cares.

I might have showed you some blue Griffons but I don't want somebody knocking on my door.

Blue Challenger


Blue Dash 8 (and an ugly one to boot)


Blue Harvard


Blue Hawk


The old Labrador Helicopter (may she rest in peace)