[martin14]

Famous French cartoonists Cabu, Charb, Tignous and Wolinski all reported killed in the attack.


Charb had a price put on his head by al-Qaeda in 2013.



They are now saying three shooters.





14.16 Spanish media group Prisa has evacuated its headquarters in Madrid after receiving a suspect package, a spokesman for the company has said. It is not currently thought that the two incidents are linked.
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Meanwhile Jyllands-Posten, the Danish newspaper that originally published the inflammatory Prophet Mohammed cartoons in 2005, has reportedly stepped up its security.

"Surveillance and the level of security in and around our headquarters in Copenhagen and in (the west Danish city of) Viby has been increased," an internal Jyllands-Posten email said, according to Danish paper Berlingske.

"We are following closely the situation in connection with the attack on Charlie Hebdo in Paris earlier today.

[Praxius]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Praxius Praxius:

Now again, I am not defending these extremist turd nuggets for their actions, nor am I going to say these guys who posted the images shouldn't express their freedom of expression, but I am also not going to shed sympathy over the whole matter for either side.

Freedom of speech and Freedom of expression does not equate to freedom of consequence... More importantly, while one can only hope, the reality is that you can not blindly expect people to leave you alone based on your opinions, actions or expressions.

Really? So exercising freedom of expression, freedom of the press has the logical consequence of Death by Firing Squad?

That is not acceptable in civilized society. Speech should never be countered by violence, only by speech.

The comprehension skills are strong in here. (what you quoted of me was a generalize statement taken out of context from the following lines I typed)

I double dog dare any of you to point out exactly where in any of my posts I made a claim that "exercising freedom of expression, freedom of the press has the logical consequence of Death by Firing Squad."

Point out exactly where I ever justified someone being killed for speaking their mind.

Go ahead and show me the quote rather than re-wording and twisting things to mean whatever you want them to mean.

Now before any of you do, I strongly suggest you re-read very carefully.

I'm off to bed and thus, will give you some time to think it over before I reply again. Best make it a good one.

Or don't.... Apparently I'm just a troll by some accounts. Guess that's what they call people these days who have opposing views. (whatever makes them feel they won something I suppose)

[stratos]

$1:

Which is 100% not what I was saying or leading to. I did not justify the actions of the gunmen. I did not justify, excuse or trivialize what they did and I sure as heck didn't say they had every right to shoot a bunch of people.

you say this now but wrote this

$1:

And you provoke them anyways again and again, you have your own special role in creating the problem in the first place.

Thus Justifying their actions.

$1:

stratos wrote:
Quote:
I then explain that I hope these gunmen, Muslims or whoever they are, are found and get royally fk'd up over their actions.... At the very least, caught and Brough to justice



Please point out where you say this because now where can I find it in your previous post:


That's because it wasn't in my previous post, but part of my future-predictive post in which has yet to happen.

An utter and complete dodge considering your previously quoted statements.

[stratos]

$1:

The thing is, I shouldn't have to state that. I would imagine the greater majority of people in here would share the same mentality and would have been a given.

Yet you claimed that you had already stated this. Then claimed that it was somehow a preview to what you were going to write. Now you are saying that you need not say it at all.

Could you make up your mind on what you are saying and when you are saying it please.

[martin14]

stratos stratos:

martin14 martin14:

stratos stratos:

Death toll rising 10 ppl from the news paper are dead and now 2 French police officers are dead.

One of the cops was wounded in the street, then shot in the head.

Looks like the shooters got away.

I've seen video of 2 guys getting in a car and driving off. Is there reports of more then 2 gunmen? Where any attackers killed/captured at the scene? I can only catch bits of the reporting do to work.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc6_1420632668

full warning, they shoot the cop in the head after wounding him, you can see him on the ground
saying something with his hand up trying to ward them off.

I guess it's ok because they didn't stop to behead him.

[martin14]

There are reports of a car exploding outside a synagogue in Paris. It is not yet clear whether there is any link to terror, or the specific attack on Charlie Hebdo magazine's offices.

[DrCaleb]

Praxius Praxius:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Praxius Praxius:

Now again, I am not defending these extremist turd nuggets for their actions, nor am I going to say these guys who posted the images shouldn't express their freedom of expression, but I am also not going to shed sympathy over the whole matter for either side.

Freedom of speech and Freedom of expression does not equate to freedom of consequence... More importantly, while one can only hope, the reality is that you can not blindly expect people to leave you alone based on your opinions, actions or expressions.

Really? So exercising freedom of expression, freedom of the press has the logical consequence of Death by Firing Squad?

That is not acceptable in civilized society. Speech should never be countered by violence, only by speech.

The comprehension skills are strong in here. (what you quoted of me was a generalize statement taken out of context from the following lines I typed)

I double dog dare any of you to point out exactly where in any of my posts I made a claim that "exercising freedom of expression, freedom of the press has the logical consequence of Death by Firing Squad."

Point out exactly where I ever justified someone being killed for speaking their mind.

Go ahead and show me the quote rather than re-wording and twisting things to mean whatever you want them to mean.

Now before any of you do, I strongly suggest you re-read very carefully.

I'm off to bed and thus, will give you some time to think it over before I reply again. Best make it a good one.

Or don't.... Apparently I'm just a troll by some accounts. Guess that's what they call people these days who have opposing views. (whatever makes them feel they won something I suppose)

I did quote, exactly as you wrote it, and it says exactly as I claim. Changing the semantics doesn't change the sentiment.

Praxius Praxius:

Point out exactly where I ever justified someone being killed for speaking their mind.

Praxius Praxius:

I am also not going to shed sympathy over the whole matter for either side.

Pretty simple, that one. You think it's perfectly OK to name the Prophet Muhammed as editor of the magazine, and you are fine when the magazine staff are gunned down by Muslims for it.

Praxius Praxius:

Freedom of speech and Freedom of expression does not equate to freedom of consequence... More importantly, while one can only hope, the reality is that you can not blindly expect people to leave you alone based on your opinions, actions or expressions.

Therefore "exercising freedom of expression, freedom of the press has the logical consequence of Death by Firing Squad."

Praxius Praxius:

Or don't.... Apparently I'm just a troll by some accounts. Guess that's what they call people these days who have opposing views.

I prefer logical debate to name calling those with opposing views. Just because I oppose someone's specific views doesn't mean I oppose all their views. Many people here I agree with in the broad sense, but disagree with on specific points.

[DrCaleb]

martin14 martin14:

There are reports of a car exploding outside a synagogue in Paris. It is not yet clear whether there is any link to terror, or the specific attack on Charlie Hebdo magazine's offices.

Don't be silly! Cars explode by accident all the time, just ask the Irish.

[stratos]

$1:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc6_1420632668

full warning, they shoot the cop in the head after wounding him, you can see him on the ground
saying something with his hand up trying to ward them off.

I guess it's ok because they didn't stop to behead him.

This is/was one of my recurring nightmares for years while doing my various law enforcement activities. Being helpless to defend myself or others while some POS kills everyone around me and then after seeing all those people die I get killed.

Considering my current job this travesty is very poignant.

[DrCaleb]

stratos stratos:

$1:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc6_1420632668

full warning, they shoot the cop in the head after wounding him, you can see him on the ground
saying something with his hand up trying to ward them off.

I guess it's ok because they didn't stop to behead him.

This is/was one of my recurring nightmares for years while doing my various law enforcement activities. Being helpless to defend myself or others while some POS kills everyone around me and then after seeing all those people die I get killed.

Considering my current job this travesty is very poignant.

And people wonder why those of us who would do something about it aren't allowed to carry guns. Instead, they have to watch someone else who isn't afraid to illegally posses and use guns, kill everyone around them while they are powerless to stop it.

[stratos]

$1:

And people wonder why those of us who would do something about it aren't allowed to carry guns. Instead, they have to watch someone else who isn't afraid to illegally posses and use guns, kill everyone around them while they are powerless to stop it.

Very well stated thank you.

[BartSimpson]

All I have to say for the moment is that Islam is as Islam does. And it is a cult of violence and blood and extreme intolerance for anything that is not Islam. It is a pestilence and the day is now in sight when the civilized world will curbstomp this sick and evil disease just like we did National Socialism.
There will be an accounting and when it comes the apologists will be remembered.

[Batsy2]

Video shows terrorist shooting Paris police officer at close range: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Ti_98ZR-7Lc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=sSYKn7jAcMs

[Batsy2]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

All I have to say for the moment is that Islam is as Islam does. And it is a cult of violence and blood and extreme intolerance for anything that is not Islam. It is a pestilence and the day is now in sight when the civilized world will curbstomp this sick and evil disease just like we did National Socialism.
There will be an accounting and when it comes the apologists will be remembered.

I couldn't agree more.

[andyt]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

All I have to say for the moment is that Islam is as Islam does. And it is a cult of violence and blood and extreme intolerance for anything that is not Islam. It is a pestilence and the day is now in sight when the civilized world will curbstomp this sick and evil disease just like we did National Socialism.
There will be an accounting and when it comes the apologists will be remembered.

Final solution for Muslims and their apologists, huh? Better start now on building the abattoirs, since you're not talking about a measly 6 million here. Of course maybe you'll be humane like ISIS and allow them to choose conversion over death. In fact your post is just ISIS in a Stetson.

Judging by your past posts, gays and people in Detroit (or is it all blacks?) better start to worry as well.