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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:36 am
Something that I heard on radio a few days ago that got national attention. It's frightening.
Imagine what the kid is thinking ? He didn't get into the draw of the stuffed animal because his parents had no more clean Tupperware one day...
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Brenda
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:43 am
Ridiculous. The school has the responsibility to teach the children how to make the right choices later in life, and give them all the tools to make that choice. The right choices for THEM. It is not their job to teach kids "if you don't do what my ideology says, if you are not letting me brainwash you, you get punished."
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:50 am
Brenda, the schools have been brainwashing the kids on any number of topics such as homosexuality, guns, liberal politics, collectivist politics, abortion, sexual morality, morality in general, and twenty years ago they were fervently preaching to the kids that alar was going to kill them and that chloroflourocarbons were going to cause a massive depletion of the ozone layer and etc.
Sorry to say, but the ship long ago sailed on public schools brainwashing children.
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:53 am
Reason 1) for me to not have children, I wouldn't be so diplomatic.
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:55 am
Tricks Tricks: Reason 1) for me to not have children, I wouldn't be so diplomatic. Ditto that. I'm not the least bit patient or understanding when it's my friends' kids and I can only imagine what I'd be like were it my kid being subjected to this kind of thing. "Unpleasant" about sums it up. 
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:56 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Brenda, the schools have been brainwashing the kids on any number of topics such as homosexuality, guns, liberal politics, collectivist politics, abortion, sexual morality, morality in general, and twenty years ago they were fervently preaching to the kids that alar was going to kill them and that chloroflourocarbons were going to cause a massive depletion of the ozone layer and etc.
Sorry to say, but the ship long ago sailed on public schools brainwashing children. Without brainwashing you can't have patriots, good workers, social people good citizens in general. If Canada (USA, Ukraine) will be not doing own brainwash, it will be doing another country - concequences can be tragical.
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:07 am
I'm with Brenda on this. It seems to be working too! The mom put her kids sandwich in a plastic bag. the kid said " No Mommy, don't do that" 'Mommy did some inquiring' and got 'educated. She likely won't be packing jr.s lunch in plastic anymore. Really though, the school is just doing stuff to 'be seen to be doing something' inasmuch as they are encouraging kids to 'take your garbage home, and dispose of it there'. The garbage still ends up in the same landfill! I use cloth grocery bags. When I remember to bring them with me. When I forget, then I pack my groceries in cardboard boxes. This is not always possible as quite often, the stores don't have any boxes. So it is plastic bags @ .05 each. These bags, ultimately, get used as kitchen/bath garbage bags. What should I do with them, melt them down and make fenceposts??? And I use Ziplock bags to repackage meats. These too end up in the garbage. What's the alternative to that? It is the point of origin which needs to change! I would use paper sacks if they were an option, but they're not!
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:11 am
So, it's unfair to exclude anyone for any reason from any contest? The little dude knew the rules, told his parents and they excluded him, not the school. Suck it up. Buy the kid a teddy bear if they feel some great injustice has been done.
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Brenda
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:14 am
Curtman Curtman: So, it's unfair to exclude anyone for any reason from any contest? The little dude knew the rules, told his parents and they excluded him, not the school. Suck it up. Buy the kid a teddy bear if they feel some great injustice has been done. BS. Send a note home if you have a contest and there are rules. The kid is 6, not 16.
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:20 am
Yogi Yogi: I'm with Brenda on this. It seems to be working too! The mom put her kids sandwich in a plastic bag. the kid said " No Mommy, don't do that" 'Mommy did some inquiring' and got 'educated. She likely won't be packing jr.s lunch in plastic anymore. If it were me I'd send the kid to school the next day with his lunch neatly packed in a biodegradeable wrapper made out of a baby seal pelt.
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:23 am
there is a very very easy way around this whole situation....PRESS THE BUTTON ON THE DISHWASHER!!!! 
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:34 am
Curtman Curtman: So, it's unfair to exclude anyone for any reason from any contest? The little dude knew the rules, told his parents and they excluded him, not the school. Suck it up. Buy the kid a teddy bear if they feel some great injustice has been done. That's not the point at all. Imagine the thinking of the little boy. He doesn't think like us. He's a child. In his head, he has no idea of the environmental question. He only understands that because his parents put his sandwich in a plastic bag, he could not win a stuffed animal. If that's not brainwashing, I wonder what is.
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:40 am
Proculation Proculation: Curtman Curtman: So, it's unfair to exclude anyone for any reason from any contest? The little dude knew the rules, told his parents and they excluded him, not the school. Suck it up. Buy the kid a teddy bear if they feel some great injustice has been done. That's not the point at all. Imagine the thinking of the little boy. He doesn't think like us. He's a child. In his head, he has no idea of the environmental question. He only understands that because his parents put his sandwich in a plastic bag, he could not win a stuffed animal. If that's not brainwashing, I wonder what is. I agree. It's the same sort of selective learning techniques that made Al Gore millions with "An inconvenient truth". Propaganda dressed up as 'learning'. Not good.
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andyt
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:47 am
Curtman Curtman: So, it's unfair to exclude anyone for any reason from any contest? The little dude knew the rules, told his parents and they excluded him, not the school. Suck it up. Buy the kid a teddy bear if they feel some great injustice has been done. Come on Curtman. The school did not inform the parents, nor did it teach the kids why the bags are undesirable. By the time the kid told his parents, he had already been excluded. I think we all know how it hurts at that age to be on the out. What the school should have done is send a letter around to parents asking them to use only use re-usable products, and left it at that. Don't make a 6 yr old responsible for the actions of his parents. And if they want to hold a contest around this, make it that one kid wins who has been the most green for a period of time. But do it with things that the kid actually has control over at school - recycling, picking up litter, stuff like that.
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