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Title: Robocall scandal traced to Ont. Tory campaign
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Date: 2012-02-28 15:40:25
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Fraudulent election phone calls raise more questions
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Even as MPs unanimously passed a motion calling on politicians of all stripes to give Elections Canada and the RCMP any information on fraudulent calls received during the last election, anecdotes revealing potentially more suspicious calls emerged across the country.

On Monday, the Liberals and NDP accused Conservative-affiliated firms of being involved in a scheme to deliberately discourage voters from casting ballots in the May 2 election. In some cases, the parties said, callers were misdirected to the wrong location to vote. Live and automated calls allegedly falsely impersonated Elections Canada or an opponent's campaign.

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Liberals in Kingston are poring through their campaign notes compiling the complaints reported to them:

* Being woken at 2 a.m. by deliberately rude callers who falsely claimed to be from the Liberal campaign soliciting their votes.

* Calls on the morning of Easter Sunday when the Liberal campaign had in fact suspended all campaigning.

* Late-evening calls to elderly residents in seniors retirement residences.

* Calls on election day and advance polling days informing residents that the polling station marked on their voting card had been changed to a much more distant and incorrect site.

In at least some of those calls, the callers impersonated the Liberal campaign manager.


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Other breaking news, Bluntman connected to major Lake Winnipeg hashish harbour drop. 8O


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I dunno. During the election month, I got calls from the local Liberals in my own riding at all hours of the day (not every day mind you) asking for my support. My dinner was interrupted more than once, and they even called late one night just after I had retired for the evening. Never once did I get a call from the NDP in my riding.

The only other annoying call I got was from the Conservative office (of which I was a staffer) waking me up late one night asking "HEY WILL YOU BE HERE TOMORROW TO HELP OUT IN THE WAR ROOM?......WHAT.....OKAY SORRY FOR CALLING SO LATE.....THANKS FOR YOU HELP SEE YOU TOMORROW." *click*

Politics. Sheesh.

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Is it just me or is the fact that the phone was registered to Pierre Poutine from Separatist Street the funniest thing ever?


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Goober_McGee Goober_McGee:
Is it just me or is the fact that the phone was registered to Pierre Poutine from Separatist Street the funniest thing ever?

It's just you.




Ok yeah, it's pretty funny :lol: but not the funniest thing ever :wink:


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:D hahaha but seriously, how ridiculously Canadian is this "scandal," especially with hilarious references like this are involved?





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http://looncanada.com/2012/05/12/meet-andrew-prescott-the-conservative-christian-who-shares-an-ip-address-with-pierre-poutine/
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Elections Canada‘s dedicated but underfunded gumshoe, investigator and “public officer”, Al Mathews has been traversing Canada’s hillets and dales in the past twelve months since the Harper Government® cemented the doors on the PMO and proceeded to unveil its blueprint for a Brave New Tory Order in the wake of an ever dodgier-and-dodgier-looking May 2, 2011 federal election “victory”.

While election scandals are often dull and listless matters, the “robocalls” electoral fraud scandal has proven atypically engaging because of Mathews’ periodic reports filed in support of judicial production orders with the Ontario and other provincial courts where his investigation has thus far carried him.

With each fairly regular instalment, Canadians have been treated to a digit-by-digit replication of the electronic and sometimes paper trail that Mathews has been on in pursuit of the elusive Pierre Poutine, the pseudonymous perp who has thus far evaded identification because of his/her use of a “burner” (disposable) cell-phone to carry out his election day voter suppression calls to an electoral district in Guelph, Ontario.

Does The Robocalls Trail Lead to Higher Ground?

But, as they say in the news gathering vernacular (or, used to say), here’s what we (think we) know so far:

According to informations sworn by Mathews and filed with the court in support of his applications for telephone record production orders, the thousands of calls that were sent to misdirect non-Conservative Guelph voters on election day last year by an Alberta-based “robocall” company (RackNine) were initiated by someone using a computer with the same internet address as another RackNine account holder and Tory customer and campaign organizer for local Tory candidate Marty Burke in the 2011 federal election.

That “other” account holder was none other than Mr. Andrew Prescott, a politically savvy and tireless accolyte of his self-proclaimed hero, Prime Minister Stephen Harper (his blog “avatar” is a shot of Prescott next to Harper only hours “before history was made,” or as the event is known to unbelievers, the election of the Harper minority government in 2006) and a campaign apparatchik for the Tory candidate in Guelph, Marty “Letter to the Editor” Burke.

To date, Mr. Prescott has clearly told the media that he used his RackNine account for so-called “legitimate robocalls” on behalf of Mr. Burke’s 2011 campaign and, according to Postmedia news reports, “denies any involvement in the illegal calls.” The self-described “I.T.” specialist was intimately familiar with the sophisticated interfaces that allowed the Tories to use personalized data about individual voters in every riding in the country (stored in the party’s CIMS database) to “get out the vote.”

What is less clear however is why a Conservative Party of Canada campaign functionary in Mr. Prescott’s position would have felt the need to initiate or program his own avowedly “legitimate robocalls” from behind a proxy server (an intermediate computer site or server which masks ef the IP address (and identity) of the source computer user. If one were cynical, one would be tempted to propose a private member’s bill to outlaw masked robocallers during federal elections.

Yet, undeniably, according to news accounts, “both the Poutine and Prescott accounts had used a proxy server in Saskatchewan and the same Rogers IP address in Guelph to connect to RackNine at different times — and on one occasion, within four minutes of each other.” While more recent court documents filed by Mathews now indicate that the Burke campaign headquarters was not the location of the coincidental IP address, it remains a mystery, at least to the public, who the owner of the IP address actually is.

The best that the Mathews investigation has come up with to date is an online trace of the mysterious IP address using an online “whois” website. The results of that query showed, according to Mathews latest affidavit, that the IP address turned over by Rogers under the judicial production order was from somewhere in the Guelph area.

Andrew Prescott, who blogs anonymously under the Blogger account online name of “Christian Conservative,” resides in, and makes his evangelical mission’s work, near Cambridge, Ontario, which is approximately 15 miles from Guelph.

A former Briton who moved to Canada with his parents in the dark ages and was, by his own account, “saved” at the tender age of five–meaning he was converted to his current Christian views–belongs to a vibrant “sect” of Christians known as “The Plymouth Brethren.” So too does his wife Meghan.

According to a recent post in the current affairs blog, Media Culpa, Andrew Prescott, is a Brethren member “who seems to have been similarly exercised about gay marriage.” Indeed, Prescott’s own “pundit” commentaries and discussion threads on the Christian website speak in apocalyptic terms about issues such as same sex marriage and gay rights, such as Prescott’s own comments on the passage of same-sex marriage legislation by the Liberal government of Paul Martin in 2005:

Today, hereby referred to as ‘Black Tuesday’, marks the beginning of the end for Canada as we know it. History shows that as a nation declines morally, its end is near. Let it also be stated that the enacting of this law will result in the imprisonment of Christians within the next few years. As one who may enter Church leadership sometime in the future, and one who may be authorized to perform marriages, this law may end up in my own incarceration. Nevertheless, may God’s will be done.

My Declaration – (to be read at my court hearing at a date yet to be determined)

On this day, ‘Black Tuesday’, June 28, 2005, I, Andrew Prescott, declare that in accordance with God’s Holy Word, the Holy Bible, I do not and will not recognize the validity of same sex marriage.

In accordance with the religious freedoms proclaimed within Bill C-38, it is my right. Prime Minister Paul Martin has indicated that religious freedoms will be protected, and he is to be called as a witness to this fact. Any overturning of this right by any court or tribunal is in direct conflict with the religious freedoms protected under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

We acknowledge that at a future date, these rights will however be ignored for the ‘greater good’, and let it be known that at every stage of debate, opponents of Bill C-38 warned that the protections for religious freedoms within Bill C-38 were not sufficient.

In other words, we were right. Bill C-38 will in fact be used to target those of faith.

Signed,

Andrew Prescott
‘Black Tuesday’, June 28, 200

“Well, we are well aware that there will one day be such a unity of the globe, but we who study the Bible know that this will only occur during the ‘End Times’, when the dark powers behind the world leaders take final control and proclaim “peace” unto all the earth; when their master, Satan, will in essence be ruling the world. (as fortold by the prophets of the Old Testament, Daniel, Isaiah, Jeremiah, etc, and the New Testament writer John in his ‘Revelation’)

The main question at hand is the role of true born-again Christians in politics. As a background for you, many in our sect of Christianity have in the past felt that we must keep ourselves seperate from the worlds affairs and use our time and resources solely for our King, the Lord Jesus Christ, and seeking to convert the world by preaching His Gospel to all before His glorious return to earth to rule; that will of course be the true ushering in of ‘Peace on Earth’.

Several of us (mostly in the younger generations) have questioned this practice, (of non-involvement in politics) as we see many laws being passed in our home countries that are in direct conflict with the Word of God, the Bible. (in Canada, a law permitting Same-Sex Marriage is about to be passed) Some of us feel that it is partially due to our neglect of politics that these issues that we are faced have arisen.

Of course, some feel (as I do) that the passing of these laws may simply be another sign that the End of Days is almost here, and it should spur us on to proclaim the Truth of the Lord Jesus Christ, and that He alone is the pathway to God, before time is up for the world”.

Pharmacology as Sorcery

Andrew Prescott’s wife, Meghan, is also an extremely serious religious zealot with strong views about many contemporary political and social issues. Like her husband, Meghan Prescott speaks in the peculiar vernacular of The Brethren, consumed by a sense of distinct calling and evident dedication to the higher campaign.

Yes, I used to smoke, drink, do some soft drugs back in high school, but here’s the thing, I always felt guilty about it. My friends and I corrupted the Scripture by using the “every green herb in the earth I give to you” argument, and we also pervertedly believed that b/c we were the temple of the holy Spirit, we should “feel good” and that the drugs/alcohol was an enhancer of that. However in my heart of hearts/conscience, the Spirit wouldn’t let me get away with thinking that doing stuff that was okay. I lied to myself to allow myself to do that stuff.

The biggest reason why I think pot, hash, and all the other recreational drugs out there are wrong for a Believer to use is because they inhibit a person’s ability to reason fully, and doing these things puts a person into the situation where they certainly cannot be “on guard” “standing firm” “sobre”–and all the other various commands that are similar in the NT.

Also, two instances in Rev. speak of “sorcerers” and the greek words are:

pharmakeus
pharmakon (a drug, that is, spell giving potion); a druggist (“pharmacist”) or poisoner, that is, (by extension) a magician: – sorcerer.

pharmakos
The same as sorcerer.

These words are found in Rev. 21:8 and 22:15. Go ahead and look them up.

The basic point I want to make by bringing in these passages, is that it is obvious that not all drugs are good or approved by God. When Adam and Eve fell in the garden, it was not only humankind that was affected. The very earth itself was corrupted and thus brought forth out of the ground imperfect and even dangerous things. The whole “God created it so it must be okay” argument holds about as much water as a sieve. I’ve never met a dope-head yet who wanted to live to the glory of God.

Now in terms of medical use, I’m pretty well okay with that–proverbs talks about giving wine to those who are perishing (same implications of dulling pain). But recreational drug use–no way. Can you see Jesus and the disciples hot housing it in the upper room? I don’t think so.

“Eunuchs” and Other Deep Thoughts on “Homosexual Marriage”

For Andrew Prescott, the issue that seems to have galvanized his political devotion to Stephen Harper and Jesus Christ is the same-sex marriage debate. In an especially fiery forum posting in July 2005, six months before the federal election that brought his earthly saviour to a minority government in Ottawa, Prescott posted this inspirational message:

…Does God have a problem with gay marriage? Based on what the majority have said here, yes, we think He does….
Sarah, I think the main problem is a difference of opinion, as to whether or not a person is “born gay”. You seem to believe that this is the case… I do not. I believe that as all sin, it is a choice that we make. You did indeed misread my comment earlier… I was referring to those of homosexual orientation who were willingly participating in such an act.I think it comes down to the verse that I stated earlier about eunuchs… there are people who are born who are not attracted to the opposite gender, no argument about that. However, it’s what they then do with that “gift” that is the issue. The world tells them that if they are not attracted to the opposite sex, they must then be gay. Could it simply be that these eunuchs have been sold a lie?

by prescott » Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:30 pm
About Chick tracts and the like… according to present Canadian law, such things, including the Bible, could, if it went before an extremely anti-Christian judge, be defined as “hate literature”.

Because the Bible says that homosexuality is “abomination before God” (Lev 20:13 – “If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.” NKJV) anyone who says such from the platform could, in theory, be prosecuted because the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarentees that no one may be discrimiated against for their “sexual orientation”.

Now, there has only ever been one court case of this nature that I am aware of… a man handed out tracts that were, in my opinion, over the top offensive. He was fined; I think his case is presently under appeal in the courts.

(NOTE: Now, we MUST, as Bible believing Christians, continue to proclaim this as truth, that homosexuality is condemned by God… but we can EASILY do so in love… I’ve been able to witness to a homosexual man on the street, and present the truth, condemning his lifestyle, but not offending him… I heard months later that he was reconsidering his ways, in part due to our converstation)

Hope that clears things up.

Slightly off topic, but good stuff none the less.

On the very question of his activist fusion of Church and State, Prescott has also been prolific in his public rants:

On the one hand, I’m a born again Christian, and on the other, I’m strongly connected to one of the main federal parties here in Canada. (can you guess which one by my photo? LOL)However, I would not consider myself a part of the “Christian Right”, because I’m not seeking to make all the laws “Christian”. As ‘apocryphal’ pointed out, that would only serve to institute a form of legalism, which as we all know from the Bible, God rejects. Trying to do otherwise would be much like what Constantine did in the Roman Empire in 300AD, which lead to the foundation of the “Holy Roman Catholic Church”… a form of holiness on the outside, yet devoid of soul and salvation on the inside.I would like to follow the example of men like Ernest Manning… seek to govern in a Godly way to the benefit of all Canadians, regardless of their beliefs, and on an individual basis seek to change hearts and bring them to a knowledge of their Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.

Some Totalitarian Timbits® from the Harperian “Believers”

Here are some other “timbits” of religious pontification from the man many now suspect to be synonymous with Pierre Poutine, the “point-man” for the Conservative Party’s 2011 electoral fraud campaign, popularly known as “the Robocalls scandal”:

by prescott » Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:02 pm
Well, we are well aware that there will one day be such a unity of the globe, but we who study the Bible know that this will only occur during the “End Times”, when the dark powers behind the world leaders take final control and proclaim “peace” unto all the earth; when their master, Satan, will in essence be ruling the world. (as fortold (sic) by the prophets of the Old Testament, Daniel, Isaiah, Jeremiah, etc, and the New Testament writer John in his “Revelation”)

Several of us (mostly in the younger generations) have questioned this practice, (of non-involvement in politics) as we see many laws being passed in our home countries that are in direct conflict with the Word of God, the Bible. (in Canada, a law permitting Same-Sex Marriage is about to be passed) Some of us feel that it is partially due to our neglect of politics that these issues that we are faced have arisen.

Of course, some feel (as I do) that the passing of these laws may simply be another sign that the End of Days is almost here, and it should spur us on to proclaim the Truth of the Lord Jesus Christ, and that He alone is the pathway to God, before time is up for the world.

This brother once heard Bill MacDonald say, “More is accomplished in a prayer closet than a voting booth.”

I agree wholeheartedly with that statement… and I visit the closet far more often than I visit the voting booth. Seriously, I think we as Christians don’t pray for our leaders even CLOSE to enough… and I think we ought to be praying a whole lot about the decision before we ever even think about marking a ballot.

In this vein of thought though, I have a confession of sorts to make… I’ve just been asked today to join the Board of Directors for our local CPC EDA. I look at things this way… I am first and foremost a citizen of Heaven… and an ambassador for Christ. In the meantime, however, until His return, (which I was longing for earlier today while spending time with Him…) I am living in this nation, which grants me certain rights and privilages (sic). I choose to use them in order to try and influence the laws they pass, in an effort to ensure that no (or fewer) ungodly laws are passed.

Thoughts?

I’m of the opinion that as Christians, we should be looking out for our fellow man. I’m involved in politics because I honestly want to see the best platform for the people of Canada get implemented… and I think that my party (“my party” as I’m a card-carrying member, three years next week) has the best set of policies to help out each and every Canadian.

That being said, the only REAL answer to the problems we’re facing in this nation is to turn en-mass to the Lord Jesus Christ… and I acknowledge that I have to get better at proclaiming that agenda.

Alas, Mr. Prescott’s grandiose views about the loving kingdom that is all things associated with Christ, does not extend apparently to a high degree of acceptance for other faiths. On February 27, 2006, he posted the following missive on his Brethren forum encouraging discussion on the issue of whether Muslims were intent on world domination:

Will Islam take over (or try to) the world?
by prescott » Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:00 pm
Mark Steyn, from the Western Standard, wrote an article asking the question of whether Islam will suceed (sic) in taking over the world.

Here’s his article… http://www.suntimes.com/output/steyn/cs ... eyn26.html

I’ve posted some of the debate on my blog… http://canadaconservative.blogspot.com/ ... world.html… but I want to get the discussion going here.

Thoughts anyone? In my opinion, there is a move to take over. All thoughts welcome….The militaristic zealots among the disciples of Mohammed many years ago vowed to take over the world. There is little anyone can do to change their resolve – except pray. It is said that Ishmael is the father of the Arab tribes. If so, it would do well to remember what the Lord hath said:

Genesis 16:11-12 “And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.”

The Arabic disciples of Mohammed claim decendency (sic) from Ishmael. They also claim to have regard for the Hebrew scriptures (which one reasonably doubts). To the extent the seed of Ishmael are mingled with the seed of Esau should give them reason for concern:

Obadiah 1:17-18 “But upon mount Zion shall be deliverance, and there shall be holiness; and the house of Jacob shall possess their possessions.
And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it.”

But in the Glorious Kingdom of our Lord shall the tribes of Ishmael be a blessing and find grace in His sight:

Isaiah 19:23-25 “In that day shall there be a highway out of Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian shall come into Egypt, and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptians shall serve with the Assyrians. In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land: Whom the LORD of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance.”

Jesus Was Against Electoral Fraud

Perhaps the most ironic rant posted by Andrew Prescott (at least, one using his real name and not his “ChristianConservat” Twitter and Blogger moniker, appeared two days before Stephen Harper’s electoral victory on Jan 21, 2006:

How is good is VOTER FRAUD a reason NOT to vote Liberal?

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/003406.html

Small Dead Animals (link above) is reporting that Laurie Hawn, Conservative candidate in Edmonton Centre, has filed a complaint with Elections Canada. HUNDREDS of names of registered voters were found to be registered at post office boxes, self storage yards, truck stops, office buildings (entire familes, no less), etc. AND SOME OF THOSE VOTERS HAVE ALREADY VOTED AT THE ADVANCE POLLS!!! This is the riding of Liberal “Landslide Annie”… has she been hanging on to this riding for YEARS VIA FRAUD???

The Conservative campaign in Edmonton have requested an offical investigation of the results of the 2004 election, and who know’s what’s going to happen with Monday’s results.

http://canadaconservative.blogspot.com/ ... onton.html

NDP candidate offered bribe to drop out… by Liberals
by prescott » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:24 pm
You heard me correctly… an NDP candidate in BC was asked to come to a meeting at the local Liberal candidate’s office. There, he was asked to drop out and throw his support behind the Liberal in order to beat the Tory candidate in a close race.

Don’t believe me? Check out the notarized statement written up by his lawyer…

http://www.ccnmatthews.com/docs/npdstat.pdf

Anyone STILL want to support a corrupt party?

For more deep thoughts of Andrew Prescott, former Guelph Conservative Party of Canada campaign worker and acolyte of Stephen Harper and Jesus (though not necessarily in that order), please visit the following web addresses:

http://simplegathering.com/

http://canadaconservative.blogspot.com/ ... world.html


OTI, I think they found your blog!

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Curtman Curtman:

OTI, I think they found your blog!

ROFL


Sad state of affairs when you're reading blogs hoping to get some shred of evidence about the robocalls. :lol:





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OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Curtman Curtman:

OTI, I think they found your blog!

ROFL


Sad state of affairs when you're reading blogs hoping to get some shred of evidence about the robocalls. :lol:


This ones been making the rounds on Facebook. Its an interesting look at the mind of a born again harperite.


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Curtman Curtman:

This ones been making the rounds on Facebook. Its an interesting look at the mind of a born again harperite.


Yep, because only religious morons support conservative parties.

There's no people like this on the left side of the spectrum.





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OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Curtman Curtman:

This ones been making the rounds on Facebook. Its an interesting look at the mind of a born again harperite.


Yep, because only religious morons support conservative parties.

There's no people like this on the left side of the spectrum.


Doesn't seem to be any sharing an IP address with Pierre Poutine at least.


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Let me ask you a hypothetical question.

Should political parties be held responsible for people who aren't working for any campaign who pull stunts during a campaign?

If it turns out that some loonie, left or right, is responsible for these calls do we blame the person or the party?


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OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Let me ask you a hypothetical question.

Should political parties be held responsible for people who aren't working for any campaign who pull stunts during a campaign?

If it turns out that some loonie, left or right, is responsible for these calls do we blame the person or the party?


That's easy for Curt. If it is someone doing it to assist the Libs than only that person is responsible. If the person is trying to assist the Conservatives than the entire party is guilty! :lol:


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Rule number 1 for bosses...
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