[andyt]

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

1. The point is, the kid is quite alive, and the officer wasn't harmed. If you 'took it to court' as you say, you'd probably lose. The two questions asked of you would be 'Where was the kid's parents?' and 'Why did this kid have/where did he get a knife?'. Then the evidence would be presented, and you'd be screwed.


-J.

Well since the kid was in a group home, the parents would say the state was responsible for looking after him. Even tho there are going to be good reasons why the kid was in a group home, that wouldn't stop the parents from howling about how they were failed by the state and looking for compensation. Especially if they are FN.

As for the kid getting a knife - you lock up your knives at home, do you?

[CDN_PATRIOT]

andyt andyt:

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

1. The point is, the kid is quite alive, and the officer wasn't harmed. If you 'took it to court' as you say, you'd probably lose. The two questions asked of you would be 'Where was the kid's parents?' and 'Why did this kid have/where did he get a knife?'. Then the evidence would be presented, and you'd be screwed.


-J.

Well since the kid was in a group home, the parents would say the state was responsible for looking after him. Even tho there are going to be good reasons why the kid was in a group home, that wouldn't stop the parents from howling about how they were failed by the state and looking for compensation. Especially if they are FN.

As for the kid getting a knife - you lock up your knives at home, do you?

So your saying that the people who run/look after the group home shouldn't worry about the kid's supervision at all, regardless of the fact he took a knife and decided to try to harm someone?

My knives are safe, Andy, and that's besides the point.

-J.

[Guy_Fawkes]

I pretty sure Andy's knife remark was supposed to be facetious.

[andyt]

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

So your saying that the people who run/look after the group home shouldn't worry about the kid's supervision at all, regardless of the fact he took a knife and decided to try to harm someone?

My knives are safe, Andy, and that's besides the point.

-J.

Don't see where I ever said that. I'm sure they were doing the best they could.

You've got to be the only one who locks up his knives. Most families the kitchen knives are readily accessible to 11 yr olds. And we know that kids can access pretty well anything they want on the street. If this kid got a knife off the street, just lucky he didn't get a gun.

[andyt]

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

I pretty sure Andy's knife remark was supposed to be facetious.

Nope. It was meant to point out that in most households kitchen knives are accessible to 11 yr olds. A chef's knife is a pretty fearsome weapon - they range from 6 to 14 inch blade length. Just measured mine and it's about 9" long. I'd hate to have somebody come after me with it.

[Guy_Fawkes]

andyt andyt:

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

I pretty sure Andy's knife remark was supposed to be facetious.

Nope. It was meant to point out that in most households kitchen knives are accessible to 11 yr olds. A chef's knife is a pretty fearsome weapon - they range from 6 to 14 inch blade length. Just measured mine and it's about 9" long. I'd hate to have somebody come after me with it.

So you were serious when you asking CP if he locked up his knives?

[raydan]

andyt andyt:

Nope. It was meant to point out that in most households kitchen knives are accessible to 11 yr olds. A chef's knife is a pretty fearsome weapon - they range from 6 to 14 inch blade length. Just measured mine and it's about 9" long. I'd hate to have somebody come after me with it.

My dad was a chef and I've got his knives.
I just had to measure a blade and it's 12 inches long***... and super sharp.

Never locked up my knives either.
The kids were helping up prepare meals and using them way before they were 11.


***Now you've got knife envy... admit it?

[andyt]

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

andyt andyt:

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

I pretty sure Andy's knife remark was supposed to be facetious.

Nope. It was meant to point out that in most households kitchen knives are accessible to 11 yr olds. A chef's knife is a pretty fearsome weapon - they range from 6 to 14 inch blade length. Just measured mine and it's about 9" long. I'd hate to have somebody come after me with it.

So you were serious when you asking CP if he locked up his knives?

As I said, to point out how easy it is for a kid to get a knife. I didn't expect him to say yes he did, I wanted him to see that asking where the kid got the knife didn't have much merit to it. Ordinary households all over the country have 11 yr olds with access to knives.

[andyt]

raydan raydan:

andyt andyt:

Nope. It was meant to point out that in most households kitchen knives are accessible to 11 yr olds. A chef's knife is a pretty fearsome weapon - they range from 6 to 14 inch blade length. Just measured mine and it's about 9" long. I'd hate to have somebody come after me with it.

My dad was a chef and I've got his knives.
I just had to measure a blade and it's 12 inches long***... and super sharp.

Never locked up my knives either.
The kids were helping up prepare meals and using them way before they were 11.


***Now you've got knife envy... admit it?

Nope, I put it down to you compensating for a small maple leaf.

[Guy_Fawkes]

Ah ok, you kinda threw me off there when you said it wasn't facetious.

[Brenda]

andyt andyt:

As I said, to point out how easy it is for a kid to get a knife. I didn't expect him to say yes he did, I wanted him to see that asking where the kid got the knife didn't have much merit to it. Ordinary households all over the country have 11 yr olds with access to knives.

Of course they do, so does mine. Doesn't mean they even THINK about using it as a weapon tho.

[andyt]

Brenda Brenda:

andyt andyt:

As I said, to point out how easy it is for a kid to get a knife. I didn't expect him to say yes he did, I wanted him to see that asking where the kid got the knife didn't have much merit to it. Ordinary households all over the country have 11 yr olds with access to knives.

Of course they do, so does mine. Doesn't mean they even THINK about using it as a weapon tho.

Oh, I don't know about that. Even the most perfect family can generate all kinds of anger. It's a long way from thinking about it to actually doing it, because with most people there are all kinds of thoughts competing with the anger. But a kid like this, in a group home, likely doesn't have that sort of self-control, or even has learned that acting out his anger brings the most success. But that's where you get the story in the news about a "normal" family where somebody just snaps and people didn't see it coming.

[Smacle]

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

1. The point is, the kid is quite alive, and the officer wasn't harmed. If you 'took it to court' as you say, you'd probably lose. The two questions asked of you would be 'Where was the kid's parents?' and 'Why did this kid have/where did he get a knife?'. Then the evidence would be presented, and you'd be screwed.

2. What's the matter? Getting called out bothers you somewhat? Until trolls like you walk the walk instead of just talking the talk, then perhaps it might end. And I also believe this cop did his job to a T.

-J.

I'm a bouncer at 2 bars on Whyte ave and have a tour to Afghanistan(OMLT). I've seen my share of knives, and guns, I can handle an 11 year old brat. The problem is that my experience has nothing to do with this situation, this cop fucked up.

[BionicBunny]

I'm surprised nobody has yet pointed out that the vests cops wear are good to have between you and a bullet but they do fuck all against knives to my understanding.

Hell, two cops needed to wrestle a 9 year old from a group home. The kid locked himself into the group home's van and then stripped himself naked as he screamed at the worker outside. Even after he was shoved in cuffs the little bastard was trying to do harm.

But hey, I'm sure there's a hero somewhere willing to get stabbed or sliced in the right place and bleed out before the ambulance arrives. I mean, what the heck are we paying them for?

[ShepherdsDog]

A knife isn't dangerous to police? Think again.