[Newsbot]

Title: PM's remarks rekindle debate on the death penalty
Category: Political
Posted By: Scape
Date: 2011-01-20 12:23:25
Canadian

[Scape]

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[andyt]

Very clever, that Harper. He says he won't introduce legislation to bring it back, thus assuring bleeding hearts like me, but he's also feeding red meat to his base. Then, if he does get a majority, there will be an "outcry" to reinstate it. Next up, he supports private healthcare but won't introduce legislation to implement it.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Yep, cuz we all know that even the most deviant mass murderer can be rehabilitated

[DanSC]

Don't bring back the death penalty guys. The endless appeals are more expensive than life without parole.

[andyt]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Yep, cuz we all know that even the most deviant mass murderer can be rehabilitated

I don't know that. But even the most deviant mass muderer is a human being. Us killing him puts us on his level.

So is your position that only the most deviant mass murderers would get the death penalty? What would be your criteria for executing someone? How many most deviant mass murderers do we have in Canada? Olsen, Bernardo, Pikton are the only ones that come to mind. Probably a handful of others. You really going to pass a law just to apply to them? What if a more deviant mass murderer comes along before you can kill the first one? Then he won't be the most deviant anymore and you can't kill him. So there.

[andyt]

DanSC DanSC:

Don't bring back the death penalty guys. The endless appeals are more expensive than life without parole.

What about all the innocent ones you guys have fried? No concern there?

[DanSC]

andyt andyt:

What about all the innocent ones you guys have fried? No concern there?

That's also a very good reason to not have a death penalty, but I'm not sure it'll sway the CPC.

[Curtman]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Yep, cuz we all know that even the most deviant mass murderer can be rehabilitated

And then there's David Milgaard who served 21 years for a crime he did not commit who would have been put to death years before the real killer could have been found.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

andyt andyt:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Yep, cuz we all know that even the most deviant mass murderer can be rehabilitated

I don't know that. But even the most deviant mass muderer is a human being. Us killing him puts us on his level.

So is your position that only the most deviant mass murderers would get the death penalty? What would be your criteria for executing someone? How many most deviant mass murderers do we have in Canada? Olsen, Bernardo, Pikton are the only ones that come to mind. Probably a handful of others. You really going to pass a law just to apply to them? What if a more deviant mass murderer comes along before you can kill the first one? Then he won't be the most deviant anymore and you can't kill him. So there.

Paul Bernardo is a human being? My your generous with that definition. And I'm not exactly sure how executing somoene that raped, tortured and murdered a child puts us on the same level as them.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Curtman Curtman:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Yep, cuz we all know that even the most deviant mass murderer can be rehabilitated

And then there's David Milgaard who served 21 years for a crime he did not commit who would have been put to death years before the real killer could have been found.

David Milgaard was accused of being a mass murderer? Gee Curt, when did one person become a mass?

[Choban]

We've had this discussion before...

[andyt]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Paul Bernardo is a human being? My your generous with that definition. And I'm not exactly sure how executing somoene that raped, tortured and murdered a child puts us on the same level as them.

It still makes us killers, not because we have to, but because we want to. He's safely out of harm's way, there's no need to kill him and thus brutalize our society.

Again, what would be your criteria for execution. Only Bernardos? Is there much point in even opening this debate for the few Bernardos we produce?

[andyt]

Choban Choban:

We've had this discussion before...

Yeah, but this time it will be different.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

andyt andyt:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Paul Bernardo is a human being? My your generous with that definition. And I'm not exactly sure how executing somoene that raped, tortured and murdered a child puts us on the same level as them.

It still makes us killers, not because we have to, but because we want to. He's safely out of harm's way, there's no need to kill him and thus brutalize our society.

Again, what would be your criteria for execution. Only Bernardos? Is there much point in even opening this debate for the few Bernardos we produce?

If there are so "few" Bernardos out there, then what's to be squeamish about executing them.
I'm not about to rehash what I've stated in a similar thread about how the death penalty should/could be handled.