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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:39 am
 


Spidy senses tingling.....

These women refuse to be publicly known and have hidden their identities.

These women admit to going to a bar underage (still an adult at 18) and getting drunk and then going to a mans house to party with him

These women allege this happened 10 years ago and these women are now 29 and 30 years old

These women admit to seeking and obtaining employment from Brown for years afterwards

These women made their allegations in shadow hidden by CTV.

So essentially an anonymous hatched job cooked up by a media outlet 5 months before an election......


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:41 am
 


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Actually it is. Many people don't report these types of crimes because of how bad it is to go through the court process. They're crucified because of it. It's why the sexual assault reporting is so low up until now, they're ostracized and viewed as participants rather than victims. If you look at a country like Sweden, where victims aren't blamed for being part of the act, the reporting is much higher.


Doing the right thing isn't always easy. It's equally unacceptable to ostracize a man with allegations without any due process. Their allegations are subject to scrutiny and that's not avoidable nor should it.

There are two sides to this and BOTH need to be considered, not just the accuser.


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How are they supposed to prove beyond reasonable doubt that this was done when it was 10 years ago? They can't reasonably do that, but if it is true, they're doing what they can to not have someone who sexually assaults people running this province. Again, he absolutely should be considered innocent until proven guilty, but I'd rather he resign as leader of the party on the chance that it's correct. We aren't Alabama. We aren't going to vote for him with this hanging over him, and that basically guarantees a liberal win.


You don't wait 10 years, that's how you handle this. You had to admit, this entire story and the timing seems awfully convenient. The guy has been in public office for 12 years. Just months before his first election as leader, this is released to the media and not the police.

Let's recap here:

1. Brown asked a woman for a blowjob. She gave him one.

2. Brown had a woman staff member over to his house after a night at the bar and things got frisky, she didn't like it and asked to be taken home and he did. She claims she was 'very inebriated' yet recalls the incident from 10 years ago with clarity.

If there is criminal wrongdoing, let's get the police involved. Having a bad date or regretting giving a blowjob likely won't qualify.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:24 am
 


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Actually it is. Many people don't report these types of crimes because of how bad it is to go through the court process. They're crucified because of it. It's why the sexual assault reporting is so low up until now, they're ostracized and viewed as participants rather than victims. If you look at a country like Sweden, where victims aren't blamed for being part of the act, the reporting is much higher.


Doing the right thing isn't always easy. It's equally unacceptable to ostracize a man with allegations without any due process. Their allegations are subject to scrutiny and that's not avoidable nor should it.

There are two sides to this and BOTH need to be considered, not just the accuser.
I agree, it isn't always easy. I can't personally judge people for not wanting to be harassed and attacked in court over this personally. You are free to, but I can't in good conscience do that. I agree innocent until proven guilty, which is why he won't go to jail over it. He also hasn't lost his job as MPP over this. He's only stepped down as leader, which is the right thing to do if these are false or not from the perspective of anyone who wants the PCs to win. He could never win with this hanging over him.


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You don't wait 10 years, that's how you handle this.
Would you say the same thing about the girls who went after Moore? We live in a different time now than even 10 years ago when it comes to being a victim of sexual assault.

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You had to admit, this entire story and the timing seems awfully convenient. The guy has been in public office for 12 years.
And strangely enough, I'm hearing from people who live in Barrie this isn't news to them.

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Just months before his first election as leader, this is released to the media and not the police.
It's definitely bad timing. I also just heard on the radio (haven't had a chance to corroborate it, so take with pound of salt) that this was in reaction to finding out the Liberals had something on him, and that the party themselves leaked this to have him out as leader.

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Let's recap here:

1. Brown asked a woman for a blowjob. She gave him one.
After he provided them with alcohol when he himself was not drinking. That's rule number 1 in not being accused of sexual assault really. Strange he would have alcohol as someone who professes to never drink.
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2. Brown had a woman staff member over to his house after a night at the bar and things got frisky, she didn't like it and asked to be taken home and he did. She claims she was 'very inebriated' yet recalls the incident from 10 years ago with clarity.
Which I would totally allow for, if she hadn't reported the event to her father directly after, who has corroborated her story. Obviously, his connection to the alleged victim makes it suspect, but that at least means there are two memories here.
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If there is criminal wrongdoing, let's get the police involved. Having a bad date or regretting giving a blowjob likely won't qualify.

Agreed, I defended Aziz Ansari for the same reason. In this instance, it frankly doesn't matter if it is true or not, because you can not field a political leader in a race for government who has been accused of sexual assault. Regardless of our feelings towards his innocence or lack thereof.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:57 am
 


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Would you say the same thing about the girls who went after Moore?


Bunch of lying bitches that bunch. They only accused him to try to make him lose the election and now that the election is over they disappeared.

Two things about this:

1. If they were oh-so damaged by his actions from forty years ago they can sue in civil court for damages. They didn't and won't.

2. Because they didn't follow through AFTER the election then their accusations are diminished as being purely motivated by a political agenda. And that means the next time shit like this comes up during a critical election it won't have as much impact...even if the accusations are valid.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:00 pm
 


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1. If they were oh-so damaged by his actions from forty years ago they can sue in civil court for damages. They didn't and won't.
Well they can't now, statute of limitations in Alabama is 2 years.
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2. Because they didn't follow through AFTER the election then their accusations are diminished as being purely motivated by a political agenda. And that means the next time shit like this comes up during a critical election it won't have as much impact...even if the accusations are valid.

Follow through on what? Civilly they have nothing, because of Statute of limitations.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:00 pm
 


By hook or by crook, the lesbo-vampiro agenda will be victorious evermore!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:01 pm
 


PluggyRug PluggyRug:
Spidy senses tingling.....

These women refuse to be publicly known and have hidden their identities.

These women admit to going to a bar underage (still an adult at 18) and getting drunk and then going to a mans house to party with him

These women allege this happened 10 years ago and these women are now 29 and 30 years old

These women admit to seeking and obtaining employment from Brown for years afterwards

These women made their allegations in shadow hidden by CTV.

So essentially an anonymous hatched job cooked up by a media outlet 5 months before an election......


Yup. Just like Ghomeshi.
And Trump.
And Moore.

Funny how that works.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:08 pm
 


^ needs The Agenda


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:12 pm
 


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PluggyRug PluggyRug:
Spidy senses tingling.....

These women refuse to be publicly known and have hidden their identities.

These women admit to going to a bar underage (still an adult at 18) and getting drunk and then going to a mans house to party with him

These women allege this happened 10 years ago and these women are now 29 and 30 years old

These women admit to seeking and obtaining employment from Brown for years afterwards

These women made their allegations in shadow hidden by CTV.

So essentially an anonymous hatched job cooked up by a media outlet 5 months before an election......


Yup. Just like Ghomeshi.
And Trump.
And Moore.



Funny how that works.



The media have been trotting out the usual suspects, everyone condemning Brown with, as usual, no positive proof. Remember the hijab and scissors affair.

There was a minor earthquake in Ontario this morning caused by all the violent knee jerking.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:18 pm
 


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:

1. If they were oh-so damaged by his actions from forty years ago they can sue in civil court for damages. They didn't and won't.
Well they can't now, statute of limitations in Alabama is 2 years.
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2. Because they didn't follow through AFTER the election then their accusations are diminished as being purely motivated by a political agenda. And that means the next time shit like this comes up during a critical election it won't have as much impact...even if the accusations are valid.

Follow through on what? Civilly they have nothing, because of Statute of limitations.


They can sue in Federal court where there is no such statute of limitations.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:33 pm
 


Well seeing as how so many of you actually think these women would come forward and publicly shame themselves* just to attack an insignificant politician, he stepped up to the plate and resigned and solved the problem for you.
As did his staff yesterday.

* because that's how most women feel about 'me too'. YOU think THEY did something to deserve it, and THEY think YOU think that.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:38 pm
 


Assuming it's the same as criminal statutues, the only ones that I could find that have no statute are the following
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18 U.S.C. ch.109A
18 U.S.C. § 2241 (aggravated sexual abuse)
18 U.S.C. § 2242 (sexual abuse)
18 U.S.C. § 2243 (sexual abuse of a ward or child)
18 U.S.C. § 2244 (abusive sexual contact)
18 U.S.C. § 2245 (sexual abuse resulting in death)
18 U.S.C. § 2250 (failure to register as a sex offender)


I haven't looked into these laws to see if the Moore allegations fall under those.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:39 pm
 


"sue in court" = money

court of public opinion = cheap!!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:53 pm
 


The Moore, Clinton, Weinstein, and Trump accusers were all telling the truth.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:36 pm
 


And now Kent Hehr is gone too. He can't even DO any of this shit even if he wanted to, he only SAID inappropriate things.
Get the point yet? Women are sick of it.


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