[DerbyX]

ridenrain ridenrain:

He didn't know the file was missing because she stole it from the case. She took it directly to the press because that would generate the ammount of smear that the Libs wanted.

Funny thing is, for all the bitching and howling of "rightious indignation" about this gang molls untrustworthy nature, who's the one doing business with her now? She didn't do this for free so did the liberal party pay her or is she going to run as a candidate?

What a pathetic hack you are. Not only are you dening all responsibility you are now attempting to drag the Liberals in by insinuating they paid her and/or she will runs as one of their candidates.

Its a true tinfoil hat theory to honestly believe that she "set him up". What did she do? Call him up and say "Honey, I've cooked you a nice candle-lit dinner with all your favourites. Why don't you come over around sixish and don't forget to bring any top-secret documents with you and leave them unattended in an unlocked briefcase conviently left lying around somewhere where I can easily steal the contents without you noticing."

This is entirely Berniers fault.

How did she get the documents hmmm?

The fact that he brought them over to his GFs house alone is a serious breach of security.

Even assuming that he had a good reason to do so how did she get the documents?

If the briefcase was unlocked then that was yet another serious breach of security and one that he alone was responsible for. This alone warranted his resignation.

Did she have the combination? If he actually gave his combo to her then its an even worse breach of security.

Even if she willfully stole them then why did he take so long to know they were missing? Again, thats a serious breach made worse by Harper saying it wasn't serious five minutes before flip-flopping and accepting a resignation while acknowledging the seriousness of the incident.

Its no surprise that the con hacks are trying everything possible to shift all blame to everybody else but themselves. They have done that since day one.

An incompetent MP, an incompetent PM and an incompetent party.

[ridenrain]

Classic honey trap.

[mtbr]

DerbyX DerbyX:

What a pathetic hack you are. Not only are you dening all responsibility you are now attempting to drag the Liberals in by insinuating they paid her and/or she will runs as one of their candidates.

Its a true tinfoil hat theory to honestly believe that she "set him up". What did she do? Call him up and say "Honey, I've cooked you a nice candle-lit dinner with all your favourites. Why don't you come over around sixish and don't forget to bring any top-secret documents with you and leave them unattended in an unlocked briefcase conviently left lying around somewhere where I can easily steal the contents without you noticing."

This is entirely Berniers fault.

How did she get the documents hmmm?

The fact that he brought them over to his GFs house alone is a serious breach of security.

Even assuming that he had a good reason to do so how did she get the documents?

If the briefcase was unlocked then that was yet another serious breach of security and one that he alone was responsible for. This alone warranted his resignation.

Did she have the combination? If he actually gave his combo to her then its an even worse breach of security.

Even if she willfully stole them then why did he take so long to know they were missing? Again, thats a serious breach made worse by Harper saying it wasn't serious five minutes before flip-flopping and accepting a resignation while acknowledging the seriousness of the incident.

Its no surprise that the con hacks are trying everything possible to shift all blame to everybody else but themselves. They have done that since day one.

An incompetent MP, an incompetent PM and an incompetent party.

your ranting has become more than humorous, you should see a doctor before you blow a gasket, maybe a co worker could slip you some meds

[Wada]

Pooh!

[cheryl08]

HAHA i think this whole article is BS. First thing of all, i have been following this story since the beginning and this is the first time i have read about a supposed unlocked briefcase that Couillard happened to open and happened to have found classified documents. Clearly this is damage control, a little to late but whatever.
First thing of all, this article is based on Bernier's statement that he did not touch his briefcase since he entered Couillard's apartment. Which i think is kind of funny, because if Bernier feels that this was a security breach 1) why did he send a letter of resignation if it (as the article makes it sound) was apparently not his fault and 2) why did he not come further with this information but instead made no statements or gave no explanations when it happened.
Clearly bringing the briefcase UNLOCKED may be incompetent and sloppy on his part but I'm not completely buying the story.

[kenmore]

ridenrain ridenrain:

lily lily:

There's a good idea. She could have gone straight to Bernier and given him the documents back - the documents that he apparently didn't know were missing - and no-one would be the wiser.

Why is this the preferable scenario? Is it such a bad thing that an incompetent minister is exposed? Don't we have the right to know about such screw-ups?

He didn't know the file was missing because she stole it from the case. She took it directly to the press because that would generate the ammount of smear that the Libs wanted.

Funny thing is, for all the bitching and howling of "rightious indignation" about this gang molls untrustworthy nature, who's the one doing business with her now? She didn't do this for free so did the liberal party pay her or is she going to run as a candidate?

Are you on crack? nice try.. tory cop out

[Pimpbrewski]

Briefcase, what briefcase?

It's all a conspiracy. The story was entirely made up by the media.

[DerbyX]

Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:

Briefcase, what briefcase?

It's all a conspiracy. The story was entirely made up by the media.

Just like any chance the Allouettes have at winning eh?

Entirely made up.

[Pimpbrewski]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:

Briefcase, what briefcase?

It's all a conspiracy. The story was entirely made up by the media.

Just like any chance the Allouettes have at winning eh?

Entirely made up.

Ahhhhhh, a very nice reply indeed.

Seriously, knowing the Quebec media and TVA, surely, this had to be a set up. Like I previously mentioned, the whole purpose is to help their friends at the Bloc. The Conservatives were taking votes away from the Bloc in the province, therefore they had to come up with a scandal. And... The Alouettes will end up winning it all. No conspiracy there.

[DerbyX]

Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:

DerbyX DerbyX:

Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:

Briefcase, what briefcase?

It's all a conspiracy. The story was entirely made up by the media.

Just like any chance the Allouettes have at winning eh?

Entirely made up.

Ahhhhhh, a very nice reply indeed.

Seriously, knowing the Quebec media and TVA, surely, this had to be a set up. Like I previously mentioned, the whole purpose is to help their friends at the Bloc. The Conservatives were taking votes away from the Bloc, therefore they had to come up with a scandal. And... The Alouettes will end up winning it all. No conspiracy there.

There is no possible way she could have gotten those documents without maxine committing a serious breach of security that demanded his resignation.

She did not "lure" him to her apartment all the while insisting he come over with flowers, wine, and his briefcase containing secret documents.

He was responsible for those documents and the incredibly incompetent way he lost them.

She may have been a women scorned who used the situation to her advantage but she certainly did not plan this all in advance.

He fucked up. Harper fucked up insisting it was nobodies buisness 5 minutes before accepting his resignation as a valid response to a serious breach of security.

All the con responses are nothing more then them attempting to blame everybody else for their mistakes.

[Pimpbrewski]

DerbyX DerbyX:

All the con responses are nothing more then them attempting to blame everybody else for their mistakes.

Notice how I did not mention the Liberals in any of my posts. Plus I don't want to get into another argument.

Sure, Bernier made a mistake and I will not argue that fact. I have stated that before.

All I am saying that knowing TVA and their nationalist views in QC, it would not surprise me that they could have went as far as to approach Couillard beforehand. Serious, this media is all about controversy, and what better story than this one. And they had the exclusive. There are too many loose ends that, again, TVA has omitted to mention in their news report. Plus the fact that she held on to the documents for so long then ran straight to the media.

[DerbyX]

Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:

DerbyX DerbyX:

All the con responses are nothing more then them attempting to blame everybody else for their mistakes.

Notice how I did not mention the Liberals in any of my posts. Plus I don't want to get into another argument.

Sure, Bernier made a mistake and I will not argue that fact. I have stated that before.

All I am saying that knowing TVA and their nationalist views in QC, it would not surprise me that they could have went as far as to approach Couillard beforehand. Serious, this media is all about controversy, and what better story than this one. And they had the exclusive. There are too many loose ends that, again, TVA has omitted to mention in their news report. Plus the fact that she held on to the documents for so long then ran straight to the media.

You didn't blame the Liberals though others insinuated they were involved.

Notice I said "blame everybody else" rather then "blame the Libs".

The various bloc media may be pro-seperatists but accusing them of plotting this in advance seems a bit tin-foil. Why would they assume Couillard would help a seperatist media group? She was dating a CPC member and was therefore not likely a seperatist.

No matter what though the "political story" is how Maxime lost the documents and no possible explanation is acceptable. Its also a black mark on Harpers amateur handling of the incedent, an incident that lowered our reputation amoung our allies who do view the losing of secret NATO documents seriously and aren't CPC supporters trying desperately to say "no story here" because it embarasses them immensely.

You know full well that if this were a Lib MP this happened to then there would be loads of threads calling for the resignation of every senior MP even remotely tied to the incident but when its their own guys suddenly they just shrug their shoulders and say "meh, its no big deal".

[TattoodGirl]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:

Briefcase, what briefcase?

It's all a conspiracy. The story was entirely made up by the media.

Just like any chance the Allouettes have at winning eh?

Entirely made up.

OMFG!!!! That is brilliant...and you owe me a new monitor

[DerbyX]

TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:

OMFG!!!! That is brilliant...and you owe me a new monitor

I'd be happy to pay it in trade.

[TattoodGirl]

DerbyX DerbyX:

TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:

OMFG!!!! That is brilliant...and you owe me a new monitor

I'd be happy to pay it in trade.

Sweet!!!! My laundry is by the door...just be quiet when you put it away, I dont want to be woken...Thanks hon!!!