The law does not see it that way. Bars do have a responsibility to cut people off and to not allow people obviously intoxicated to be served.
I agree that drunks who drive and kill people or are prosecuted should have no standing to sue the bar but what about the victims of the driver?
They just might have a case against a bar with 50 cent pint nights.
The law only permits a certain amount of alcohol blood content. If you are a designated driver and are in a bar, anything more than 1 drink, regardless of cost, can result in your license being taken away if caught. If a person chooses to get totally smashed, they should not be driving anyways. If they drink enough that it actually affects them, they should not drive. Not the bars fault. I can understand alcohol poisoning. But drinking/driving just seems unacceptable to hold the bar responsible.
This all comes back to the nanny state. We like to blame others for our own stupidity. It's like a crackhead suing the RCMP because he managed to aquire drugs that ruined his life.
ziggy
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:59 am
Ask the owner of the bar in rock creek BC how those lawsuits work out.
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CommanderSock CommanderSock:
The law only permits a certain amount of alcohol blood content. If you are a designated driver and are in a bar, anything more than 1 drink, regardless of cost, can result in your license being taken away if caught. If a person chooses to get totally smashed, they should not be driving anyways. If they drink enough that it actually affects them, they should not drive. Not the bars fault. I can understand alcohol poisoning. But drinking/driving just seems unacceptable to hold the bar responsible.
This all comes back to the nanny state. We like to blame others for our own stupidity. It's like a crackhead suing the RCMP because he managed to aquire drugs that ruined his life.
This isn't just about driving. Bars have been sued because a drunk passed out on train tracks and died.
Families of the victims of a drunk have sued the bars and won. I've been a bartender before and it is our responsibility to cut people off.
Like it or not bars become very liable to litigation when they have promotions and prices that encourage people to drink alot of alcohol.
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:07 am
It used to be my reponsability to take the keys from a drunk and call a cab (as a bartender). How is that here? Can you do that?
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:07 am
$1:
Ask the owner of the bar in rock creek BC how those lawsuits work out.
I fully understand. The law works, but sometimes it doesn't always work fully. Murderers get away with 5 years for murder. Bar owners get sued for the choices ppl make. I'm all for cheap alcohol though. Let the people decide I say.
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DerbyX DerbyX:
ridenrain ridenrain:
Thank you for protecting me, oh great Liberal nanny state.
Liberal nanny state?
Ziggy just said Alberta started doing it last year. Did that escape your notice or is Alberta a Liberal nanny state also?
No we are talking about the province of Ontario, you know the cesspool of liberals in Toronto.
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ridenrain ridenrain:
Thank you for protecting me, oh great Liberal nanny state.
OH, BTW, funny how you don't seem to complain when the great conservative nanny state uses the law to protect us from drugs, prostitution, and the immorality of homosexual marriages.
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:10 am
Brenda Brenda:
It used to be my reponsability to take the keys from a drunk and call a cab (as a bartender). How is that here? Can you do that?
If she was cute I always made sure she managed to make it into a nice safe bed.
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:14 am
DerbyX DerbyX:
Brenda Brenda:
It used to be my reponsability to take the keys from a drunk and call a cab (as a bartender). How is that here? Can you do that?
If she was cute I always made sure she managed to make it into a nice safe bed.
ziggy
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:18 am
DerbyX DerbyX:
Brenda Brenda:
It used to be my reponsability to take the keys from a drunk and call a cab (as a bartender). How is that here? Can you do that?
If she was cute I always made sure she managed to make it into a nice safe bed.
Especially if they have a ferret in each armpit.
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:18 am
$1:
OH, BTW, funny how you don't seem to complain when the great conservative nanny state uses the law to protect us from drugs, prostitution, and the immorality of homosexual marriages.
Drugs, prostitution, immorality and homosexuals are satan's work heathen! We must all join to fight them out of our great society and return to the glory days where monorities knew their place and women stayed home, cooked, got beaten and couldn't vote.
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:19 am
ziggy ziggy:
DerbyX DerbyX:
Brenda Brenda:
It used to be my reponsability to take the keys from a drunk and call a cab (as a bartender). How is that here? Can you do that?
If she was cute I always made sure she managed to make it into a nice safe bed.
Especially if they have a ferret in each armpit.
Me give shave
Brenda
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:20 am
CommanderSock CommanderSock:
$1:
OH, BTW, funny how you don't seem to complain when the great conservative nanny state uses the law to protect us from drugs, prostitution, and the immorality of homosexual marriages.
Drugs, prostitution, immorality and homosexuals are satan's work heathen! We must all join to fight them out of our great society and return to the glory days where monorities knew their place and women stayed home, cooked, got beaten and couldn't vote.
And bring you your alcohol without you yelling for it
ziggy
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:29 am
CommanderSock CommanderSock:
$1:
OH, BTW, funny how you don't seem to complain when the great conservative nanny state uses the law to protect us from drugs, prostitution, and the immorality of homosexual marriages.
Drugs, prostitution, immorality and homosexuals are satan's work heathen! We must all join to fight them out of our great society and return to the glory days where monorities knew their place and women stayed home, cooked, got beaten and couldn't vote.
End the suffrage now!!!!!!
CommanderSock
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:55 am
ziggy ziggy:
CommanderSock CommanderSock:
$1:
OH, BTW, funny how you don't seem to complain when the great conservative nanny state uses the law to protect us from drugs, prostitution, and the immorality of homosexual marriages.
Drugs, prostitution, immorality and homosexuals are satan's work heathen! We must all join to fight them out of our great society and return to the glory days where monorities knew their place and women stayed home, cooked, got beaten and couldn't vote.
End the suffrage now!!!!!!
Thats jokes~! But I can't help feeling sorry for them because they did say "suffrage". How many 13 year old teenage girls even know what "suffrage" means?