[Newsbot]

Title: Ontario launches spring bear hunt 'pilot program'
Category: Misc CDN
Posted By: saturn_656
Date: 2013-11-15 04:14:56
Canadian

[saturn_656]

Maybe someone is actually listening down in Queens Park. I'm amazed.

Now all they have to do is expand it. There are plenty of rural communities well outside of these management areas struggling with problem bears.

[Jabberwalker]

I'll bet that Brigitte Bardot won't give a hang about something that can kill and eat her.

[saturn_656]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

I'll bet that Brigitte Bardot won't give a hang about something that can kill and eat her.

I honestly figured people would have to start getting severely mauled/killed up here before the government did anything. Saying "sorry" is much easier than taking preemptive action.

I did find this newsbit. Guess what side of the fence they're on.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/1584888

$1:

Half of respondents or 50% oppose the reinstatement of the spring bear hunt compared to only 26% that support it, while 24% are undecided. Support for the reinstatement was highest in the north (67%) and lowest in Toronto/metro (16%), eastern Ontario (12%) and the GTA (18%). Province-wide, more PC voters support the reinstatement (37%) in relation to Liberal (22%) and NDP (18%) voters. There is also a gender split with more males (37%) being in support compared to females (18%).

Figures. Of course the bleeding hearts in Toronto are against the hunt, they don't have to deal with the consequences, at least not until problem bears start appearing regularly in Metro Toronto. Then they'll give a shit.

[pineywoodslim]

While I'm not a particular fan of hunting, I find it interesting how black bears seem to be thriving near large, populated areas of eastern North America.

A few years ago, I visited a friend in Glen Ridge, New Jersey. She took me up to a park on the ridge from which you could see the entire Manhattan skyline lit up at night--a short 20 km. away.

And what did they have in that park? Bear-proof trash bins with warnings, all of 25 minutes from Times Square.

And bears have been spotted roaming around apartments 12 km from downtown Los Angeles, to say nothing of mountain lions caught in Chicago neighborhoods.

[Jabberwalker]

$1:

Figures. Of course the bleeding hearts in Toronto are against the hunt, they don't have to deal with the consequences, at least not until problem bears start appearing regularly in Metro Toronto. Then they'll give a shit.

We seriously need deer culls around here, as well ... either that or introduce packs of wolves, again. It's the deer that ultimately suffer starvation, etc. without predation. It is a part of their existence to be prey.

[pineywoodslim]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

$1:

Figures. Of course the bleeding hearts in Toronto are against the hunt, they don't have to deal with the consequences, at least not until problem bears start appearing regularly in Metro Toronto. Then they'll give a shit.

We seriously need deer culls around here, as well ... either that or introduce packs of wolves, again. It's the deer that ultimately suffer starvation, etc. without predation. It is a part of their existence to be prey.

Absolutely.

I live in a rural area of the upper midwest of the US in a small town of 25,000, about 3 blocks from downtown. During winter, I find deer wandering up and down my street and in the alleys. Last fall, a friend of mine was trapped trying to get out of her car in the driveway by a rutting buck that charged her.

Folks around here turn down night shifts at work--if they've got the luxury--because of the deer-vehicle collisions. I can't go 4 km from my house during winter without seeing a hit and dead deer by the side of the road.

Fortunately mountain lions are slowly moving into the area. Hopefully that will help. A bit further north in parts of Minnesota there are thousands of wolves and they don't seem to have the same problems or at least fewer problems.

But right now, no of course, you cant shoot a deer within the city limits whether it's deer season or not.

[DrCaleb]

pineywoodslim pineywoodslim:

But right now, no of course, you cant shoot a deer within the city limits.

If gunfire in the city isn't welcome - some of the best deer hunting I've done was off a backyard deck with a bow.

[pineywoodslim]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

pineywoodslim pineywoodslim:

But right now, no of course, you cant shoot a deer within the city limits.

If gunfire in the city isn't welcome - some of the best deer hunting I've done was off a backyard deck with a bow.

Knowing this place, I doubt if they would even allow that--I believe there is a no-hunting policy period within the city--too many kids, houses, and so on from my deck. I do live in a small city where you can walk to the country in 15 minutes, but it's still a city.

Problem too is that folks think the deer are cute and feed them, also illegal, but they get away with it because, well, the deer are cute.

They're yard rats as far as I'm concerned. I have a nice-sized Labrador, but he can't be outside all the time, at least in winter, plus he's been charged by a buck in the street once.

[DrCaleb]

pineywoodslim pineywoodslim:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

pineywoodslim pineywoodslim:

But right now, no of course, you cant shoot a deer within the city limits.

If gunfire in the city isn't welcome - some of the best deer hunting I've done was off a backyard deck with a bow.

Problem too is that folks think the deer are cute and feed them, also illegal, but they get away with it because, well, the deer are cute.

They're yard rats as far as I'm concerned. I have a nice-sized Labrador, but he can't be outside all the time, at least in winter, plus he's been charged by a buck in the street once.

That's too bad. People don't understand that they are cutest at a distance. It does them no favours to domesticate them.

$1:

A mule deer that was likely hand-raised and trained to consider humans as part of its herd has been destroyed in B.C.’s north Okanagan.

The two-point buck, which some had dubbed John Deer, was euthanized earlier this week by conservation officers in Coldstream, B.C., just south of Vernon.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/bri ... e14278563/

I've seen my friends Irish Wolfhounds chase - and bring down - whitetails. Also, somewhat illegal. But sometimes you can't control them when they turn from 'dogs' to 'a pack of dogs'.

[BartSimpson]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

I'll bet that Brigitte Bardot won't give a hang about something that can kill and eat her.

Not true. She's not so fond of muslims and they are known to kill and eat people.

[bambu]

pineywoodslim pineywoodslim:

While I'm not a particular fan of hunting, I find it interesting how black bears seem to be thriving near large, populated areas of eastern North America.

A few years ago, I visited a friend in Glen Ridge, New Jersey. She took me up to a park on the ridge from which you could see the entire Manhattan skyline lit up at night--a short 20 km. away.

And what did they have in that park? Bear-proof trash bins with warnings, all of 25 minutes from Times Square.

And bears have been spotted roaming around apartments 12 km from downtown Los Angeles, to say nothing of mountain lions caught in Chicago neighborhoods.

Mountain lions in Chicago neighbourhoods?
Bears roaming around LA?
Yikes!

At least Americans can carry guns.

[DrCaleb]

bambu bambu:

pineywoodslim pineywoodslim:

While I'm not a particular fan of hunting, I find it interesting how black bears seem to be thriving near large, populated areas of eastern North America.

A few years ago, I visited a friend in Glen Ridge, New Jersey. She took me up to a park on the ridge from which you could see the entire Manhattan skyline lit up at night--a short 20 km. away.

And what did they have in that park? Bear-proof trash bins with warnings, all of 25 minutes from Times Square.

And bears have been spotted roaming around apartments 12 km from downtown Los Angeles, to say nothing of mountain lions caught in Chicago neighborhoods.

Mountain lions in Chicago neighbourhoods?
Bears roaming around LA?
Yikes!

At least Americans can carry guns.

Actually, they arm Bears too.

[bambu]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

I'll bet that Brigitte Bardot won't give a hang about something that can kill and eat her.

I'd say she will.
I'd say she wouldn't want people harmed though.
She's a warrior...
.....has an anti-whaling boat named after her.

[bambu]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

bambu bambu:

pineywoodslim pineywoodslim:

While I'm not a particular fan of hunting, I find it interesting how black bears seem to be thriving near large, populated areas of eastern North America.

A few years ago, I visited a friend in Glen Ridge, New Jersey. She took me up to a park on the ridge from which you could see the entire Manhattan skyline lit up at night--a short 20 km. away.

And what did they have in that park? Bear-proof trash bins with warnings, all of 25 minutes from Times Square.

And bears have been spotted roaming around apartments 12 km from downtown Los Angeles, to say nothing of mountain lions caught in Chicago neighborhoods.

Mountain lions in Chicago neighbourhoods?
Bears roaming around LA?
Yikes!

At least Americans can carry guns.

Actually, they arm Bears too.

Bears could probably figure out how to use guns, they seem to be able to figure out how to do everything else.