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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:48 am
 


Title: NDP prioritizes ships over jets
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Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2011-04-08 16:09:58
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While I support a larger navy, we also need a larger air force. At the very least, there should have been/should be a competition for Canada's next fighter.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:55 am
 


Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
While I support a larger navy, we also need a larger air force. At the very least, there should have been/should be a competition for Canada's next fighter.


This doesn't get you a larger navy, this simply slows the rust out that most Canadians are either indifferent to or ignorant of.

AORs - built in the early 60's - end of life
DDH's built in the early 70's - end of life
FFGs - built in the early 90's - undergoing mid life refit (will take years)
MCDVs - built in the mid 90's - no mid life refit plans
SSGs - Oh dear God...
PCs - minimal combat capable and then, only in sheltered littoral waters

When US coast guard cutters begin patrolling our waters to stop immigrant ships or USN assets look for Russian and Chinese subs in our littoral waters to protect their interests, watch the canadian public pee itself ina tantrum. of course by then, it's too late. Frankly, I think we're getting closer and closer to joining the US every time we need to rely upon them for our defence and security.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:13 am
 


Won't matter, the Dippers can say anything they want.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:27 am
 


martin14 martin14:
Won't matter, the Dippers can say anything they want.


Sure they can. So can the Liberals and the CPC.

Dross talk for defence and nothing more.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:33 pm
 


Hmmm support ships eh? What's he gonna call the first one, HMCS Flapjack?
Yeah, now we'll be able to provide coffee and donuts even more efficiently to our allies in combat zones world-wide.
I heard Jack wants to equip them with syrup guns too.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:34 pm
 


Somolia will have a bigger and more effective navy then us in no time at this rate! 


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That's why we should buy up as much of the British navy as possible before they mothball or scrap the ones we can use.

Subject, of course, to full pre-purchase inspection this time just to avoid things like submarines that sink on their own with no assistance at all from the enemy.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:52 pm
 


Thanos Thanos:
That's why we should buy up as much of the British navy as possible before they mothball or scrap the ones we can use.

Subject, of course, to full pre-purchase inspection this time just to avoid things like submarines that sink on their own with no assistance at all from the enemy.


Buy British?

Right. Because that worked out so well for us before.


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Well hell, I did say inspect them first instead of just relying on the salesman to tell the 'truth' this time. It's just a good opportunity to jump at a chance to get a entire fleet for almost free. We really ought to take a shot at grabbing that carrier before the Brazilians or Indonesians get it first. It'd be goddamn cool to have one of those babies in the fleet again. 8)


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Thanos Thanos:
Well hell, I did say inspect them first instead of just relying on the salesman to tell the 'truth' this time. It's just a good opportunity to jump at a chance to get a entire fleet for almost free. We really ought to take a shot at grabbing that carrier before the Brazilians or Indonesians get it first. It'd be goddamn cool to have one of those babies in the fleet again. 8)


I can picture the Liberal ad that would come out of that purchase.

*cue ominous sounding music*

"Stephen Harper actually announced he wants to buy an aircraft carrier for our Navy."

"An aircraft carrier... carrying planes... planes with missles... planes with guns... in our Navy. The Canadian Navy."

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"We did not make this up."

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:14 pm
 


Thanos Thanos:
Well hell, I did say inspect them first instead of just relying on the salesman to tell the 'truth' this time. It's just a good opportunity to jump at a chance to get a entire fleet for almost free. We really ought to take a shot at grabbing that carrier before the Brazilians or Indonesians get it first. It'd be goddamn cool to have one of those babies in the fleet again. 8)


No manpower for it.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:24 pm
 


Gunnair Gunnair:

This doesn't get you a larger navy, this simply slows the rust out that most Canadians are either indifferent to or ignorant of.

AORs - built in the early 60's - end of life
DDH's built in the early 70's - end of life
FFGs - built in the early 90's - undergoing mid life refit (will take years)
MCDVs - built in the mid 90's - no mid life refit plans
SSGs - Oh dear God...
PCs - minimal combat capable and then, only in sheltered littoral waters



Gawwd. How many billions are they going to need?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:29 pm
 


Bruce_the_vii Bruce_the_vii:
Gunnair Gunnair:

This doesn't get you a larger navy, this simply slows the rust out that most Canadians are either indifferent to or ignorant of.

AORs - built in the early 60's - end of life
DDH's built in the early 70's - end of life
FFGs - built in the early 90's - undergoing mid life refit (will take years)
MCDVs - built in the mid 90's - no mid life refit plans
SSGs - Oh dear God...
PCs - minimal combat capable and then, only in sheltered littoral waters



Gawwd. How many billions are they going to need?


Oops... forgot the AOPVs - not yet designed or manned.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:45 pm
 


Gunnair Gunnair:
Thanos Thanos:
Well hell, I did say inspect them first instead of just relying on the salesman to tell the 'truth' this time. It's just a good opportunity to jump at a chance to get a entire fleet for almost free. We really ought to take a shot at grabbing that carrier before the Brazilians or Indonesians get it first. It'd be goddamn cool to have one of those babies in the fleet again. 8)


No manpower for it.



How do you figure?



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