[hurley_108]

Bibbi Bibbi:

Actually Conservatives should support Jack since in effect he saying that a vote for the Liberals is a vote for the Conservatives. If Jack causes a split in the Liberal party it will change the political spectrum and the Conservaives may well benefit from that.

Jack's not going to split the Liberals. He's not important enough. All he can do is alienate those that voted for his party instead of the Liberals in elections past - hurting himself. I don't see how Jack can do anything but help the Liberals by attacking them.

[Robair]

mtbr mtbr:

The split was always there he's just trying to reclaim his share.

I do find it funny how so many CKA members fly the Liberal and NDP logo...reality is they're just ABC.

I'm ABH

[ridenrain]

It wasn't Jack who screwed the coalition.. it was Iggy.
By denouncing the coalition, he burned that bridge and left Jack with no where else to go. No wonder Jacks all bitter.

The thing that must be kept in mind is that Dion and Iggy both signed that coalition deal with the NDP and the Bloc. That act alone lumps the Libs and the NDP into the same "progressive" rubbish bin and all the talk of differences is just BS.

[Bibbi]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

Bibbi Bibbi:

Actually Conservatives should support Jack since in effect he saying that a vote for the Liberals is a vote for the Conservatives. If Jack causes a split in the Liberal party it will change the political spectrum and the Conservaives may well benefit from that.

Jack's not going to split the Liberals. He's not important enough. All he can do is alienate those that voted for his party instead of the Liberals in elections past - hurting himself. I don't see how Jack can do anything but help the Liberals by attacking them.

The Liberals chose Ignatieff because he is supposedly at the centre politically and that is where they see the votes. The fallacy in that is that it could be said that Harper moved to the middle with his budget. The fact that Ignatieff supported the budget with no serious amendments implies NO difference between the politics of the two parties.

That being the case, how can the Liberals prove to any electorate that they are a viable alternative to the Conservatives. It could be construed that the Conservatives stole their "platform" and there no longer is a difference between the Liberals and the Conservatives.

This gives Jack the opportunity to move into the slightly left of centre vacuum that seems to be in the process of being created by the Liberals departure. He has decided to go after the section of the electorate that is red Liberal and not seeing any great leadership or platform at the moment as well as some dumb decisions from their point of view.

So, from a strictly political standpoint, Jack's approach and advertising is a very logical move. As to whether it will produce any results, well that is a whole different question.

[SigPig]

New NDP ad reads something like this:

"We were so close. We had almost apporached something that resembled relevance when that BASTARD Iggy cheated us out of it. He obviously can't be trusted. We can be trusted, because well, we aren't them. I'm Jack Layton for the New Democrats. By the way, Harper is evil."

[QBall]

Jackhole passed up a golden opportunity because he's a moron and a terrible politician. The whole coalition BS started because the Conservatives were planning on removing federal funding for political parties. If Jackhole had two brain cells to rub together he would have realized after the Conservatives the NDP are the best party at obtaining contributions from the general public. If the Conservatives plan had gone through, the Liberals would have gone bankrupt and the Bloc and Greens would have lost their largest source of funding. The NDP could have been handed the official opposition chair at the next election. Unfortunately power mad Jackass decided to try and back door his way into power. Now his precious coalition is as dead as his political career.

[karra]

The poor poor Knee Dippers - way past due for a new leader - TJ just shot himself in the other foot - although you can bet his psychophants don't see it that way - however, the party of 'Hail Brothers and Sisters' is long overdue for a remake - one hopefully that brings them front and center with the 21st Century. . . .

[Yogi]

That's It! Why didn't anyone 'see' this before now???


'Happy Jack's' on-line personna is lynnfoster!!!

[stokes]

Wow Taliban jack is like that pissy spoiled kid on the playground:

"Screw you guys, I am taking my ball and going home"

[Toner]

I wonder how long they had the plans for the ads in place?

[Freakinoldguy]

Yogi Yogi:

That's It! Why didn't anyone 'see' this before now???


'Happy Jack's' on-line personna is lynnfoster!!!

It can't be.

She's gonna vote for Justin Trudeau, "cause he's cute", unless of course ................... the mouse that roared is actually gay and plans to vote Liberal next election, despite being the leader of the NDP.

[Tman1]

Makes me wonder if the coalition was in power. I thought the love was there. Shows his true colours.

[EyeBrock]

Bibbi Bibbi:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

Bibbi Bibbi:

Actually Conservatives should support Jack since in effect he saying that a vote for the Liberals is a vote for the Conservatives. If Jack causes a split in the Liberal party it will change the political spectrum and the Conservaives may well benefit from that.

Jack's not going to split the Liberals. He's not important enough. All he can do is alienate those that voted for his party instead of the Liberals in elections past - hurting himself. I don't see how Jack can do anything but help the Liberals by attacking them.

The Liberals chose Ignatieff because he is supposedly at the centre politically and that is where they see the votes. The fallacy in that is that it could be said that Harper moved to the middle with his budget. The fact that Ignatieff supported the budget with no serious amendments implies NO difference between the politics of the two parties.

That being the case, how can the Liberals prove to any electorate that they are a viable alternative to the Conservatives. It could be construed that the Conservatives stole their "platform" and there no longer is a difference between the Liberals and the Conservatives.

This gives Jack the opportunity to move into the slightly left of centre vacuum that seems to be in the process of being created by the Liberals departure. He has decided to go after the section of the electorate that is red Liberal and not seeing any great leadership or platform at the moment as well as some dumb decisions from their point of view.

So, from a strictly political standpoint, Jack's approach and advertising is a very logical move. As to whether it will produce any results, well that is a whole different question.

Bibbi, I think you are half right. I'm not impressed with Harper's tactics.

The CPC have been amateur at best and petty at the worst. He has made one too many fuck-ups and from my point of view the CPC is moving left and the Liberals under Iggy are moving right.

Harper should be sitting tight with a majority now but he had to screw it up with silly remarks about the arts, which was a gift to the left and the Bloc.
I could have told him that the arts comments would play crappy in New France but he has surrounded himself with ‘yes-men’ who will not say anything to him that he doesn’t want to hear.

If Iggy manages to keep his head and keeps his arrogance to a minimum he will take Tory votes.
At the very least there will be Tories staying home and not voting when the writ drops.