[fifeboy]

andyt andyt:

They are associated with the Muslim Brotherhood, that's worrisome. Al Zawahiri came out of them. We saw how it went down in Egypt with them.

There is jihad being promoted in Canada, and we should not close our eyes to it or just ignore it. Unfortunately when somebody like FD or Martin gets going about the Muslims, it does as much damage as the everybody's beautiful crowd. Then you get what happend in Britain with the girl grooming. Authorities afraid to act because of the inciting of the right turning this into a "all Muslims are bad" issue.

Very good points all around Andy!

[andyt]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Think you need a new record, Nfidel. This one skips too much.

Funny how the same guys who were so down on Curt all seem to think FD's posts are all that.

[Gunnair]

andyt andyt:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Think you need a new record, Nfidel. This one skips too much.

Funny how the same guys who were so down on Curt all seem to think FD's posts are all that.

Not all. Both of these guys are idiotic one hit wonders.

[N_Fiddledog]

andyt andyt:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Think you need a new record, Nfidel. This one skips too much.

Funny how the same guys who were so down on Curt all seem to think FD's posts are all that.

I think for you and yours if my posts are tolerated that turns those tolerant few into fans and not just reasonable enough individuals to take ideas as they come judging each on its own merit. But I know one thing, you guys who worry about Curt all hate my posts, yet you don't seem to be able to get enough of them . It's what I shine my badge with. Must be doing something right.

Back on subject for a sec, sorry to interrupt your bashfest, but here's something puzzling me concerning this topic - how come it's me who's specifying he's talking about one specific type of radical Islamic, and it's you proggy, mocky, insulty types who want to keep going back to talking about "all Muslims". Don't you realize they're not all alike?

But yes Andy, I did notice you're finally starting to get it. Good boy.

Muslim Brotherhood, Grooming gangs, Jihad, Sharia - these are all nasty things. We need to find more moderate Muslims to help us speak against them. They have even more to worry about than we do.

Wonder who's enrolling their kids in that Muslim Brotherhood school.

[Freakinoldguy]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

andyt andyt:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Think you need a new record, Nfidel. This one skips too much.

Funny how the same guys who were so down on Curt all seem to think FD's posts are all that.

Wonder who's enrolling their kids in that Muslim Brotherhood school.

I was going to say the Khadr's but then it hit me.

They'll probably be teaching.

[martin14]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

They'll probably be teaching.

+5 if I could.

[Thanos]

Give it another couple of years and CBC will have a movie called "The Khadrs: A Canadian Tragedy", starring Justin Bieber as Omar, and Steven McHattie in full vampire regalia as Stephen Harper as Darth Vader, the mad tyrant solely responsible for that po' young boy goin' astray.

[GreenTiger]

andyt andyt:

They are associated with the Muslim Brotherhood, that's worrisome. Al Zawahiri came out of them. We saw how it went down in Egypt with them.

There is jihad being promoted in Canada, and we should not close our eyes to it or just ignore it. Unfortunately when somebody like FD or Martin gets going about the Muslims, it does as much damage as the everybody's beautiful crowd. Then you get what happend in Britain with the girl grooming. Authorities afraid to act because of the inciting of the right turning this into a "all Muslims are bad" issue.

Many mosques import their Imams from the middle east, particularly Egypt. They don't speak English and preach jihad. We should not allow this either. Somewhere between Fiddle Dog et al and the everybody's beautiful in their own way crowd lies sanity.

Exactly,

There are many Muslims that I work with and are friends of mine and as far as far separated from the Jihad Nutcase Islam scenario as anybody. They have the same concerns as everybody else ans some are very kind and gentle people who just want to be Muslim. Nobody here object to any of that at all, but some we need to ensure that the "other kind" doesn't import the kind of stuff that is infesting a lot of Europe. It is very hard to find the right balance.

[bootlegga]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Shh...don't tell CTV so they can continue to pretend they don't already know. Muslim Association of Canada is Muslim Brotherhood. Check their 'About" page.

https://www.macnet.ca/English/Pages/About%20MAC.aspx

$1:

MAC's roots are deeply enshrined in the message of Prophet Mohammad. It’s modern roots can be traced to the vigorous intellectual revivalist effort that took hold in Muslim societies starting in the early twentieth century. This revival aimed at reconciling faith with the challenges of modernity and providing a clear articulation of balance and moderation in understanding Islam. In the Arab world, this revival culminated in the writings of the late Imam Hassan al-Banna and the movement of the Society of Muslim Brothers (commonly known as the Muslim Brotherhood).

That doesn't say it's owned by the Brotherhood, or even that they are affiliated with them, just that their teachings are influenced in part by them. In fact, it says they are influenced by Hassas al-Banna;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan_al-Banna

Based on that, he doesn't sound anything like the current crop of MB scumbags. It sounds more like his followers have twisted his teachings for their own purposes - not unlike any number of Chrstians who pervert it for their own gain (Westboro Baptist anyone).

Now I fully agree that the MB are scum and IF this school is actually importing MB imams and teachers from Egypt, then they need to be dealt with.

But unless you have actual proof (more than just a blurb on a webpage) that they are importing MB imams and teachers from Egypt, then you're just overreacting/crying wolf.



Inform your local RCMP/CSIS branch and let them deal with it, if in fact there is anything to deal with...

[andyt]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Inform your local RCMP/CSIS branch and let them deal with it, if in fact there is anything to deal with...

Christ, if RCMP/CSIS is relying on the likes of FD to warn of Muslim dangers then we really are in trouble and deserve to be Ummahized.

[andyt]

GreenTiger GreenTiger:

andyt andyt:

They are associated with the Muslim Brotherhood, that's worrisome. Al Zawahiri came out of them. We saw how it went down in Egypt with them.

There is jihad being promoted in Canada, and we should not close our eyes to it or just ignore it. Unfortunately when somebody like FD or Martin gets going about the Muslims, it does as much damage as the everybody's beautiful crowd. Then you get what happend in Britain with the girl grooming. Authorities afraid to act because of the inciting of the right turning this into a "all Muslims are bad" issue.

Many mosques import their Imams from the middle east, particularly Egypt. They don't speak English and preach jihad. We should not allow this either. Somewhere between Fiddle Dog et al and the everybody's beautiful in their own way crowd lies sanity.

Exactly,

There are many Muslims that I work with and are friends of mine and as far as far separated from the Jihad Nutcase Islam scenario as anybody. They have the same concerns as everybody else ans some are very kind and gentle people who just want to be Muslim. Nobody here object to any of that at all, but some we need to ensure that the "other kind" doesn't import the kind of stuff that is infesting a lot of Europe. It is very hard to find the right balance.

It is hard, as you can see on this forum, where people want to just throw civil liberties out the window because the Muslims are coming. That will destroy our civilization as quickly as any Muslim threat. You say "Nobody here object to any of that at all" but by here you mean CKA then you haven't been following along. It's exactly those kind and gentle people we need to reach out to and form an alliance with to root out the bad ones. Can't do that if you believe all Muslims are evil.

[N_Fiddledog]

There's a problem with Wikipedia links for subjects like the Muslim Brotherhood, Boots.

Wikipedia is managed by editors. If they don't like something that's said they can have it edited. Wiki can still be useful for basic facts, or at least the ones they choose to offer, but when it comes to questions of quality (and by that I mean a measure of good or evil, right or wrong, things that one side might be uncomfortable or more comfortable with) for certain subjects, the site is useless. Key facts will be edited out. Rhetoric can find its way in without being edited. You don't go to Wikipedia to find out if Al Bana was a bad guy.

Google Hassan 'Al Bana Nazis Hitler', and go anywhere but Wikipedia.

Here's one. If you don't like it there are lots more.

http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/hit ... rhood.html

As to the current Muslim Brotherhood the best measure of their intentions here in the West is their manifesto - "the Muslim Brotherhood's 1982 manifesto titled "The Project", apparently penned by Sa'id Ramadan, the brother-in-law of Hassan al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood.

The Project" outlined the Muslim Brotherhood's 25 strategies to subjugate the world under Islam "

http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/mus ... oject.html

Want it straight from the horse's mouth? Here's a quote from Mustafa Mashhur, who was the official leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt 1996-2002.

"Allah is our goal, the Prophet is our leader, the Quran is our constitution, the Jihad is our way, and the death for Allah is our most exalted wish."

more at the link

[N_Fiddledog]

As to whether the Muslim Association of Canada is Muslim Brotherhood, you can find that all over the place. Here's one.

http://www.globalmbwatch.com/muslim-ass ... of-canada/

[BRAH]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Yes, but is it a Muslim Brotherhood school. That's the issue.

Exactly and what's next Taliban summer camp?

[bootlegga]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

There's a problem with Wikipedia links for subjects like the Muslim Brotherhood, Boots.

Wikipedia is managed by editors. If they don't like something that's said they can have it edited. Wiki can still be useful for basic facts, but when it comes to questions of quality (and by that I mean a measure of good or evil, right or wrong, things that one side might be uncomfortable or more comfortable with) for certain subjects, the site is useless. Key facts will be edited out. Rhetoric can find its way in without being edited. You don't got to Wikipedia to find out if Al Bana was a bad guy.

Google Hassan 'Al Bana Nazis Hitler', and go anywhere but Wikipedia.

Here's one. If you don't like it there are lots more.

http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/hit ... rhood.html

As to the current Muslim Brotherhood the best measure of their intentions here in the West is their manifesto - "the Muslim Brotherhood's 1982 manifesto titled "The Project", apparently penned by Sa'id Ramadan, the brother-in-law of Hassan al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood.

The Project" outlined the Muslim Brotherhood's 25 strategies to subjugate the world under Islam "

http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/mus ... oject.html

Want it straight from the horse's mouth? Here's a quote from Mustafa Mashhur, who was the official leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt 1996-2002.

"Allah is our goal, the Prophet is our leader, the Quran is our constitution, the Jihad is our way, and the death for Allah is our most exalted wish."

more at the link

You’re surprised that a Muslim hated Jews? I’m not – it was a fact of life back then (and for many it still is unfortunately). Having said that, there are Israelis who hate Muslims just as much – even today. Of course, two wrongs don’t make a right and maybe someday they will see eye to eye (I won’t hold my breath for it however).

If historical revisionism is wrong when discussing the actions and intentions of Canadian bomber crews in WW2, then why is it okay to do expect a Muslim from the same time period have a more modern POV? Things that make you go hmm…

Next - any source called ‘Billion Bibles’ is kind of suspect when it starts talking about Muslims – just as similar Muslim sources would be if someone started mining them for quotes about Jews or Christians. But for the sake of discussion, let’s go there anyways.

So you are basically saying that we should hate these guys because Hitler supported al-Banna? Okay, fair enough. I can’t even think of strong enough words to describe what a vile piece of filth Hitler was.

Hope you hate the American space program just as much – lots of its biggest and brightest worked for Hitler too (many were also members of the Nazi party). Same goes for IBM, Ford and lots of other American corporations. There are plenty of examples like that… just saying.

Still, that’s a strike against him in my books.

Now, I’m not saying this guy is a paragon of virtue, because he certainly isn’t. But the fact that a school wants to use his teachings (a few of which are noble) isn’t a worth getting your knickers in a not over…at least not yet. Let the authorities investigate and then let’s decide what happens next. A public lynching like is not a good thing IMHO.