[EyeBrock]

kenmore kenmore:

I think you mean conceited...... conceded is to accept as true or accurate...
but hey I like you EyeBrock

You know I like ya too Ken!

[EyeBrock]

Bodah Bodah:

Don't you have to bilingual to be an RCMP officer anywhere in the country ? Curious to know. In the Ottawa area the majority of the RCMP Officers are francophone.

I think for certain postings the Donut Warriors have to speak Franglais. I also believe that to get past a certain rank, they have to a have a tested ability in both languages. They also have to be citizens whereas most regional/municipal services in Ontario allow PR's to apply.

On chicks in policing.

There's no height limit in policing anymore. There are a few short-arse guys who can pound the crap out of anybody and a few of the girls can throw a good hook. They are not all 6 foot 6 Neanderthals, nor do they need to be. A taser is a great equaliser and pepper spray can take the wind out of a drunk idiots sails very quickly. Before you do any of that, you can always talk 90% of the idiots down with a bit of common sense and respect.

There are chicks who are as brave as any guy. That's all anybody can ask. Chicks also have a different way of looking at things and diversity of opinion is a good thing in policing, especially in the investigative side.

[Gunnair]

diggerdick diggerdick:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I am very conceded.

sorry, im using a Dragon speak program, that gives me the ability just to talk to my computer. And occasionally it makes mistakes that I do not pick up on.

I am glad, you're having fun.

Do you do karate chops to when you're making arguments?

[Bodah]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I think for certain postings the Donut Warriors have to speak Franglais. I also believe that to get past a certain rank, they have to a have a tested ability in both languages. They also have to be citizens whereas most regional/municipal services in Ontario allow PR's to apply.

Wait a second you mean if I was a resident but didn't have citizenship I could apply for the Toronto Police force ?

They can't vote but are given the rights and powers of a Police Officer ?

Thanks for the other info.

[redhatmamma]

This is a more aggressive campaign then previously, they always did use employment equity (or affirmative action) in hiring. I suspect the bilingual requirement is a drawback for many applicants.

However, whatever happened to meritocracy, skills and abilities when it comes to selecting qualified applicants? We all abhor racial discrimination but since when did resorting to a form of discrimination solve anything.

[EyeBrock]

Bodah Bodah:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I think for certain postings the Donut Warriors have to speak Franglais. I also believe that to get past a certain rank, they have to a have a tested ability in both languages. They also have to be citizens whereas most regional/municipal services in Ontario allow PR's to apply.

Wait a second you mean if I was a resident but didn't have citizenship I could apply for the Toronto Police force ?

They can't vote but are given the rights and powers of a Police Officer ?

Thanks for the other info.

Yep. The process is quite complicated besides that though.

[EyeBrock]

redhatmamma redhatmamma:

This is a more aggressive campaign then previously, they always did use employment equity (or affirmative action) in hiring. I suspect the bilingual requirement is a drawback for many applicants.

However, whatever happened to meritocracy, skills and abilities when it comes to selecting qualified applicants? We all abhor racial discrimination but since when did resorting to a form of discrimination solve anything.

The tests should be equal for all. The Federal goverment hasn't agreed with that notion in policing or the military for decades.

[redhatmamma]

Are you sure about that, what about the federal jobs where only minorities can apply. You can bet during the interview process at some point additional points are given for being a minority. I don't know what they do now but at a few years back white males needed a higher score than women and minorities on the aptitude test just to get in on an interview.

I think you'll find that such scoring probably still applies.

[EyeBrock]

I'm sure it does.

We replaced the inequality of sexism and racism in the workplace with something less in-your-face but still repugnant.

[redhatmamma]

Indeed !

this is from 1996, I'm not sure what what has changed.

http://business.highbeam.com/5587/artic ... minorities

$1:

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police did not become world-famous by placing sex and skin colour above brains and brawn, but that is the hiring policy that will craft their new image for the next century. Solicitor General Herb Gray admitted in a letter in April to Edmonton computer consultant Barry Ceminchuk that the RCMP routinely passes over white males to employ less qualified but genetically-correct candidates: women, visible minorities and Indians.

In a joint report in March, RCMP Commissioner Phil Murray and Canadian Human Rights Commission (CHRC) boss Max Yalden outlined RCMP hiring quotas with unexpected precision. Based on historic applicant and demographic …

[rawmeat]

That is some broad brush streotyping there. I am a 5'7" male and don't see that as true at all.

Chumley Chumley:

diggerdick diggerdick:

obviously the RCMP, are totally oblivious to their problems.hiring according to qualifications and the ability to do the job correctly is once again taking a back seat to being politically correct.
they seem to believe, hiring the 5 foot two hundred and 25 pound women who fear for their lives, when confronted with the slightest physical altercation is the way to go.

but the 6 foot four male,who is totally qualified and has the ability to demand respect is overlooked.

Most 6 foot four males are arrogant punks, good on em for hiring women and minorities who have more respect for society.

[Guy_Fawkes]

rawmeat rawmeat:

That is some broad brush streotyping there. I am a 5'7" male and don't see that as true at all.

Chumley Chumley:

diggerdick diggerdick:

obviously the RCMP, are totally oblivious to their problems.hiring according to qualifications and the ability to do the job correctly is once again taking a back seat to being politically correct.
they seem to believe, hiring the 5 foot two hundred and 25 pound women who fear for their lives, when confronted with the slightest physical altercation is the way to go.

but the 6 foot four male,who is totally qualified and has the ability to demand respect is overlooked.

Most 6 foot four males are arrogant punks, good on em for hiring women and minorities who have more respect for society.

Read a couple of posts down, he was just winding digger up

[rawmeat]

One more reason i should read a thread through before posting.

[digerdick]

I have no problem, with people believing that they're getting me all wound up. In fact I rather like it. For a person that has been on the site for four years, and don't even have 300 posts I certainly have a dedicated following. Though I do wish eyebroke would please continue to ignore me....... but it certainly is fun , poking him with a stick

[Benn]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

redhatmamma redhatmamma:

This is a more aggressive campaign then previously, they always did use employment equity (or affirmative action) in hiring. I suspect the bilingual requirement is a drawback for many applicants.

However, whatever happened to meritocracy, skills and abilities when it comes to selecting qualified applicants? We all abhor racial discrimination but since when did resorting to a form of discrimination solve anything.

The tests should be equal for all. The Federal goverment hasn't agreed with that notion in policing or the military for decades.

62 or 65% to Pass the RPAT (RCMP Aptitude Test) however after that they can choose from the pass pool who they wish too move along. So technically (and I know its happening in Central Region for sure) they can then choose to move on an applicant who scored 66 over on who scored 80 if they so wish for whatever reason, for example now meeting a quota. Plus Central region recruits have to get higher marks than other regions in order to advance in the recruitment process.

So no, it is no equal treatment for all. Regional differences as well as not race and gender differences.