[Thanos]

Tribute to 150th anniversary of the RCMP turns into yet another pre-emptive virtue signaling session.....

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local- ... cmp-design

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Organizers of the Edmonton Corn Maze have issued an apology online for their design commemorating the Royal Canadian Mounted Police’s (RCMP) 150th anniversary.

Designers of the popular summer and fall attraction, located on Maskekosihk Trail just southwest of Edmonton, have unveiled a new maze every year since 2001, with the Edmonton Elks being featured last year and others honoured in years past including the Stollery Children’s Hospital Foundation in 2019, and Edmonton-based video game company Bioware in 2017.

This year’s design is meant to commemorate the RCMP’s 150th anniversary with the 150 logo etched into the corn maze alongside a Mountie saluting.

On Friday, organizers released a statement to their Facebook page apologizing for the design.

“We recognize that our approach did not adequately take into account the hurt and harm that the RCMP’s history has caused in different communities,” the statement reads. “We acknowledge that such a portrayal may be perceived as insensitive and dismissive of these valid issues. We are sorry.”

The post was subsequently removed from social media posts Sunday afternoon. In an email Sunday, Edmonton Corn Maze owner and operator Jesse Kraay said the initial message was missing their support for the RCMP, and law enforcement in general, and committed to “better messaging and acknowledgements for everyone” moving forward.

“We posted a statement on Friday in response to some of the initial feedback that we received from our maze design,” Kraay said. “We thought it was important to acknowledge the sometimes problematic history of the RCMP and the impact it has had on different communities over the past 150 years.”

“We in no way wanted to diminish or devalue the good work that they do. The maze design recognizes this 150-year milestone. We thank them for their service.”

Feedback to the initial apology varied with some thanking organizers while others described the statement as “unnecessary.”

“The decision to support the RCMP of today does not mean you condone the actions of past RCMP. No need to apologize,” wrote Bonnie L. Vreugdenhil in a comment.

“Actions of today. They are still causing harm,” Jennifer Anneliese wrote in a reply post.

No one should be surprised. Cowardly surrender in the face of yet another incoming barrage of woke bullshit is pretty much the reflexive response to anything anyone does these days.

CKA's response? - "ACAB! Defund now! We should copy San Francisco and it's successfully law & order strategy!".

[Zipperfish]

Well ACAB, yeah, but you still need cops. You just don't have to like them.

[DrCaleb]

Thanos Thanos:

CKA's response?

Actually, that is just you. No one else posted that. Just you.

[bootlegga]

Thanos Thanos:

CKA's response? - "ACAB! Defund now! We should copy San Francisco and it's successfully law & order strategy!".

I often agree with you, but please link to some posts that say that, because from my recollection, most people here think we still need cops, but that they shouldn't be sent alone on mental health calls and that more funding should go to social agencies to help deal with poverty, drug addiction and homelessness.

Instead, most city's solution now is to buy the police more helicopters and SUVs to brutalize people, not all of whom are guilty.

You might want to read some of the links and posts in this thread if you think Canadian cops are completely above reproach:

canadian-politics-f17/canada-police-misconduct-reports-t124336.html

And yeah, not all cops, blah blah, but most cops hide behind the blue shield when they do something wrong, instead of manning up and admitting they made a mistake.

[DrCaleb]

bootlegga bootlegga:

And yeah, not all cops, blah blah, but most cops hide behind the blue shield when they do something wrong, instead of manning up and admitting they made a mistake.

Philosophy Tube will have something on this coming up. She put it on Nebula Friday, so Youtube next week.

[Thanos]

Police helicopters & SUVs "brutalize people"?

I'm still of the mind that every police force in the North America should unite and walk off the job for three entire months. And on top have the boys in the military/national guard/militia/cadets/whoever refuse to fill in for them if ordered to do so by our criminal-loving governments & judges. Then let the inevitable fun & games erupt in full force for an entire 90 days. Tough love, I know, but this society that now resembles nothing but a toxic river of of rancid running shit, this disgusting thing the remaining decent people are hopelessly trapped in, desperately needs something truly & unforgettably horrible to happen to it. I don't think anything else, short of being attacked with nuclear weapons, would be shockingly severe enough to snap this disintegrating culture out of the current mania that's guiding it to total destruction.

[Zipperfish]

This all started when they said Pluto wasn't a planet anymore.

[Scape]

bootlegga bootlegga:

And yeah, not all cops, blah blah, but most cops hide behind the blue shield when they do something wrong, instead of manning up and admitting they made a mistake.

Police Unions default position is to defend the members without regard of merit. Doesn't matter what they did or the intent and that isn't the Unions fault but it does create a culture unlike any other as the offender can simply transfer to another region and their file does not transfer with them.

[Zipperfish]

I should read a good cop book. Haven't read one in ages. Read New Centurions by Joseph Wambaugh, and LA Confidential. They formed my impression of police, along with being a slum skid that got shit-kicked by them pretty regularly.

Any recommendations for good, recent cop books, maybe even written by a cop?

[DrCaleb]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Any recommendations for good, recent cop books, maybe even written by a cop?

"Juliet Tango Foxtrot. How it all went wrong for British Policing". That's the book Abigail will be tearing apart on Philosophy Tube.

[Thanos]

I Am The Law - How Judge Dredd Predicted Our Future

https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/I-am-t ... Our-Future

Mega City One didn't happen due to fascism or a hostile takeover by the police & military. It happened because a police state was the only option remaining after a thoroughly corrupt democracy & a catch-and-release judicial system had failed so completely and comprehensively to function anymore. By the time of the Judges taking the entire state over the people were legitimately in far more danger from their own elected & institutional leaders then they ever could have been from a hard-nosed & merciless police system. Fascism doesn't happen spontaneously by itself, or appear in a vacuum. It is, always has been, and always will be a reaction to the wild destruction & disintegration into chaos that the other ideology causes everywhere it's experimented with.

One of the other Dredd stories featured a pro-democracy march that attracted 16 million protestors. Sound impressive? Not when the population of Mega City One was 800 million at the time. So that's over 780 million people who either actively don't care who runs things, the people or the police state. And, just as likely, they prefer living under the harshness of the Judges simply because they remember what democracy inflicted on them. The philosophy behind Judge Dredd remains fascinating. The creators loathed fascism and went out of their way more times than can be counted to show that the Judges are NOT the good guys. But at the same time they never held back on showing how bad things can become when democracy fails, and that maybe the vaunted & sainted people (whom the prophetic likes of HL Mencken were entirely correct to despise) simply can't be trusted to rule their own lives because they will always slide into an anarchistic individualism featuring a reflexive criminality that literally rips the entire society apart.

Long read but it's a good one.

[Thanos]

Also, thumbs up to pretty much any Ellroy book. Almost all of them are truly great. The background that doesn't get discussed often enough is that the police will only be as clean & decent as the place they're policing. Los Angeles is and always has been a moral abattoir, so it makes perfect sense that the police far too often will get swept into the raging waters of the ethical sewer surrounding them. No one else in public office in that fucking hellhole bothers to live up to the oaths of service they make to the people. So why should it be any surprise to anyone that some of the cops will end up behaving the same way the rest of the bastards do?

[DrCaleb]

I don't know that me and 8 of my colleagues have ever been videotaped beating a black man half to death for a traffic violation.

[Thanos]

You don't live in Los Angeles though. Or any other American city either. If you're born in Russia and live there for your entire life you're going to have a character and belief system that can only be described as pitiless & brutal. You will never be shown any mercy, fairness, love, or most other decent human trait by practically everyone you meet. All you will be fed mentally & emotionally will be harshness. As such you will become pretty much like everyone else there - dismissive, unempathetic, sadistic, and disinterested in any of the higher values, virtues, and characteristics.

I doubt there's any cop out there, especially in the US, who doesn't have PTSD by the time their second year of service is finished. Tends to happen when they get called over and over again to traffic carnage, blood-covered walls & floors at domestic disputes, or seeing every damn day what happens to the helpless children who were doomed to be born to the sort of genuinely & truly evil two-legged pieces of shit who never ever should have been allowed to become parents. When you see that day after endless day it's probably kind of hard to give a damn anymore, knowing that the finger you've stuck into the dam that's barely holding back a river of blood isn't doing any good at all, that you're in a non-stop grinding war will never be won and one that's going to reduce you to barely a shadow of what you were before you entered the fight. That's what it's like in too many of America's large cities, and the cops only turn out like pretty much everyone else - just cold, reactive, & cruel simply because that's the only way they'll survive with what's left of their sanity still intact.

The police are only human. Just like everyone else on this miserable planet it's not just their major flaw. It's also the curse that ends up killing them on the inside.

[DrCaleb]

Yes, they are human just like the rest of us. They make mistakes. But the Police Misconduct threads are full of people with guns and badges doing things that the rest of us would not do. Then they get charged and go to jail, showing us that they were wrong to act that way.

I can't imagine what would happen to me if I hit a guy with the door of my moving truck, like that Mountie did. Or like the last brave cop I posted about, who bounced the head of a handcuffed woman off a jail floor because PTSD something something.