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mikewood86 mikewood86:
So much bickering. Doesn't the military stress team work? Don't you rely on each other to function correctly/fully?
It's a family squabble.
Step back slowly with no sudden moves...
Wow, no shit. It wasn't a personal attack and was taken way out of context. Welcoming forms here. Grow up.
Telling people to grow up who have been here for years while you've been here for days isn't exactly they type of attitude that gets a warm welcome around here.
My 2 cents on the issue; we need temperate woodland and arid region patterns based on current and foreseeable operational needs. Our TW is the most effective in the majority of woodland environments around the world, from tropical jungles to the boreal forest (which is what most of Canada is domestically), and most everything wooded between those two latitudes. An effective cam on the prairies is rather lacking, MARPAT would be a better colour for South-Central BC, Southern Alberta, Sask, and Manitoba, but the TW will do, because to issue a specialized cam to 1 MBG, and all the reservist regiments out there would be a waste of money.
Arid region can be used in several places in Canada to greater effectiveness then TW, depending on the time of year... Specifically the above mentioned areas where MARPAT TW would be better then CADPAT TW. At present it isn't for domestic issue, but sometime after Afghanistan I could see certain units having the basics of arid region pers kit issued (combats, helmet cover, boots, tac-vest, and frag vest at most). Everything else would either not really needed domestically, or would be available for issue on an as-needed basis.
The winter cam is a joke. If they gave it many more darker tones (a shade of brown, a shade of green, white, and possibly shade of Grey) in larger blotches for late-fall and early spring, as well as alpine operations, I could see it being cost effective... But as is the current issued whites are just fine.
Now I could see it being worth the money for the military to develop and issue an urban ops cam to CANSOFCOM units, as well as swat units for domestic police forces... but not as general issue to reg force members.
I also don't understand why the vehicles haven't been CADPATized yet. The green works, but CADPAT would be better. Design it to break up the vehicle outline at 1000-1500 meters. Would be the cats ass. Dismounted troops could probs still hear the vehicle, but not necessarily see it to engage with GPMGs, 50 cals, or RPGs/recoiless rifles. And gunners of enemy fighting vehicles would have a harder time establishing a target.
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you will probably learn about this the more you work with competent people.
