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Posts: 3915
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:45 pm
Maybe the Leafs should have given Theo Fleury the try out instead of the flames...
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Posts: 3915
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:49 pm
Well the Leafs have been mediocre since 1967 and it hasn't help them with draft picks... Why make a better product if a mediocre one sells?
Only the Leafs and Rangers fans are dumb enough to accept & support lossing hockey teams... But at least the Rangers won the Cup in 1994 and appear to be improving....
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Mustang1
CKA Super Elite
Posts: 7594
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:24 am
Lemmy Lemmy: stemmer stemmer: The best medicine for the Leafs would be empty seats at the Air Canada Centre but as long as seats sell why change the script... The seats usually ARE empty. But the tickets have been sold, so it doesn't matter. You keep spouting this boycott idea, but you don't seem to know the reality of Leaf economics. The best proven strategy for imporving an NHL team is finishing last or near last several years in a row and getting 5 or 6 top-4 picks. It worked for Quebec-Colorado and it's worked twice for Pittsburgh. Finishing dead-last for the next 3 years would be the best thing that could happen for Leafs fans. And you'll notice Super Fan's response when he's asked about ideas on improving the Leafs - a Fleury tryout?!?!? Brilliant. This is coming from a "fan" of a team that has NEVER won a cup, but he's lecturing about attendance and offering up squat as to where Burke has gone wrong and what he should have done. Gotta love the EA Sports guys lose on the Internet. 
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Lemmy
CKA Uber
Posts: 12349
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:55 am
Have you read Damian Cox' column in the Star today? His genius idea to save the Leafs is to bring in Brendan Shannahan, yes 41 year-old Brendan Shannahan. Maybe Stemmer is relly Cox. Maybe the Leafs should get Chelios too. Or, better yet, how about search out the 24 year-old players that look like Shannahan and Chelios? So much arm-chair GM silliness surrounds the Leafs. Total bat shit.
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Posts: 3915
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:57 am
The Leafs majority owner is the teacher's fund... Now which is priority #1, an return on their investment or to win the Cup???
Now if there was a drop in ticket sales then it would force management to think how to recoup their decline in sales. One way would be to ice a better product...
As long as Leaf fans buy into the Leaf Nation fanfare the Leafs will remain dismal. Even Les Habs fans will boycott their team when performance is less then stellar...
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Lemmy
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:33 am
stemmer stemmer: The Leafs majority owner is the teacher's fund... Now which is priority #1, an return on their investment or to win the Cup??? Their priority is the make returns on their investments. But 2 questions: 1. Would MLSE make more or less money if the team were winning? And read up on the theory of Marginal Revenue Product of Labour before you answer. 2. How much of role do you think OTPP has in the personnel/hockey decisions made at MLSE? stemmer stemmer: Now if there was a drop in ticket sales then it would force management to think how to recoup their decline in sales. One way would be to ice a better product...
But the tickets are virutally all owned as corporate season tickets. So there will be no "drop in sales", regardless whether fans boycott or not.
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Posts: 3915
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:48 am
Please provide a link to backup your allegation that the majority of season tickets are owned by corporations... I can believe the majority of sky boxes are owned by companies but not the majority of season tickets... Are you telling me I can not walk up to a ticket booth or scalper on game day and purchase a ticket to a Leafs game?
Sorry, but I find that HARD to BELIEVE!!!
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Lemmy
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Posts: 12349
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:55 am
stemmer stemmer: Please provide a link to backup your allegation that the majority of season tickets are owned by corporations... I can believe the majority of sky boxes are owned by companies but not the majority of season tickets... Are you telling me I can not walk up to a ticket booth or scalper on game day and purchase a ticket to a Leafs game?
Sorry, but I find that HARD to BELIEVE!!! Then don't believe it. I don't much care whether you believe me or not. Sure, you can buy from a scalper. The scalpers at Leaf games aren't usually professional scalpers though. They're people who've gotten their hands on some company's tickets. As for walking up to the ticket booth on game day, you might get a ticket if you want a single. If you want a group of 2, 3, 4 tickets, you need to get them at the start of the season or through a scalper or corporate connection. The tickets that are sold to the public are the cheap seats only. Virtually all the premium seats, along with all the boxes, are corporate. You answered neither of my questions, though, so nice dodge. ![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif)
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Posts: 11907
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:44 am
Has anyone every gone winless the entire season? The reason I ask is after watching a few leafs games I think they have a shot at being the first! 
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Posts: 11907
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:45 am
Double post  Damn work computer.
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Posts: 10843
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:56 am
Lemmy Lemmy: Finishing dead-last for the next 3 years would be the best thing that could happen for Leafs fans. didn't they trade away their first round picks for the next two years?? ![huh? [huh]](./images/smilies/icon_scratch.gif)
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Lemmy
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Posts: 12349
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:15 pm
newfette newfette: Lemmy Lemmy: Finishing dead-last for the next 3 years would be the best thing that could happen for Leafs fans. didn't they trade away their first round picks for the next two years?? ![huh? [huh]](./images/smilies/icon_scratch.gif) You didn't read page one of this thread, eh?
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Posts: 6932
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:25 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: Sure, you can buy from a scalper. The scalpers at Leaf games aren't usually professional scalpers though. They're people who've gotten their hands on some company's tickets. As for walking up to the ticket booth on game day, you might get a ticket if you want a single. If you want a group of 2, 3, 4 tickets, you need to get them at the start of the season or through a scalper or corporate connection. The tickets that are sold to the public are the cheap seats only. Virtually all the premium seats, along with all the boxes, are corporate. You answered neither of my questions, though, so nice dodge. ![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif) I just checked out ticketmaster, could only get a single for this coming Saturdays game, section 119 row 9. Next I tried for the Nov. 14 game with the Flames and found 2, section 109 (blue line) row 10. I didn't look for a bigger group tho.
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Regina 
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:56 pm
stemmer stemmer: Please provide a link to backup your allegation that the majority of season tickets are owned by corporations... I can believe the majority of sky boxes are owned by companies but not the majority of season tickets... Are you telling me I can not walk up to a ticket booth or scalper on game day and purchase a ticket to a Leafs game?
Sorry, but I find that HARD to BELIEVE!!! All boxes are corporate or ones that a player has and loans it out. My company has one and is beside Sundin's box. Most tickets in the lower bowl are either corporate or are private but sold to scalpers to cover the yearly cost. Private owners don't go to that many games and sell the rest. No you can't walk up to the ticket booth and buy 2 tickets on game day. In fact you wouldn't get a pair of tickets from anyone but a scalper. I've been to lots of games and have seen that rodeo.
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Mustang1
CKA Super Elite
Posts: 7594
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:09 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: stemmer stemmer: The Leafs majority owner is the teacher's fund... Now which is priority #1, an return on their investment or to win the Cup??? Their priority is the make returns on their investments. But 2 questions: 1. Would MLSE make more or less money if the team were winning? And read up on the theory of Marginal Revenue Product of Labour before you answer. 2. How much of role do you think OTPP has in the personnel/hockey decisions made at MLSE? stemmer stemmer: Now if there was a drop in ticket sales then it would force management to think how to recoup their decline in sales. One way would be to ice a better product...
But the tickets are virutally all owned as corporate season tickets. So there will be no "drop in sales", regardless whether fans boycott or not. Trying to help the SuperFans? Commendable. And here's how little they truly know - why would the Teacher's Pension want the Leafs to spend up to the cap (as much as they could, especially under JFJ) and then miss the playoffs, thus losing the big bucks from tickets? The OTTP's role is to make money and they don't call the shots, the GMs do and they were spending money (albeit on bad investments). You'll also notice that SuperFan dodges any and all hockey questions regarding what the Leafs, under Burke, should have done differently. Typical wannabe.
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