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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:33 pm
I've shot plenty of 9 millies in the military. That distance for sure.
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:40 pm
Sad sad story. Not even a trained expert would have woken from a dead or half sleep and saved that kid. They may have gotten the killer in the back but would probably have had to deal with frantic passengers trying to get off. The best and only time fora shot would have been when everyone was off and the killer was brandishing the head at the front of the bus. Having said that I don't know that if the right oppurtunity arrose and a professional had a handgun that he couldn't have taken the attacker down after the first five or six thrusts. Now the situation would have had to of been perfect and this certainly was not. I hate to agree with the people I so often disagree with but that poor lad was going to die in this situation unless someone saw the killer raising that knife and was inches away and out of the killers peripheral vision. I feel so bad for this boys family and his dad and friends. RIP! and I hope justice gets served here in this case. 
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:35 pm
The Death Penalty is the only answer to a brutal crime like this, the apologists can keep trying to come up with excuses of why this happen but there's no excuse for this, there can't be..
It's time Canada gets the courage and starts executing Murderers like this SOB..
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:41 pm
lily lily: Getting? It's been stupid since the first person said what they'd have done if they were there. If I was there I would have been scared, my first reaction would have been to try and stop this SOB but then maybe the reality of how small a space the bus is and the chance myself or another innocent passenger becoming the next victim would have set in.. Would I have found the courage to do what's right I really don't know.. Monday Morning Quarterbacking is a wonderful thing after the fact.. 
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:42 pm
Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah: The Death Penalty is the only answer to a brutal crime like this, the apologists can keep trying to come up with excuses of why this happen but there's no excuse for this, there can't be..
It's time Canada gets the courage and starts executing Murderers like this SOB.. He'll be put away for life. As for excuses, there aren't any. Reasons? Possibly. Mental health issues at the very least. The guy either had a hard drive crash or a catastrophic software glitch. I hear evil thrown out a lot, but that's a rather simplistic description which is also easy to hide behind for a mental ailment that could strike anybody - including people on these forums.
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:43 pm
I can usually resist the urges to stab people in the neck.
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:45 pm
Gunnair Gunnair: Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah: The Death Penalty is the only answer to a brutal crime like this, the apologists can keep trying to come up with excuses of why this happen but there's no excuse for this, there can't be..
It's time Canada gets the courage and starts executing Murderers like this SOB.. He'll be put away for life. As for excuses, there aren't any. Reasons? Possibly. Mental health issues at the very least. The guy either had a hard drive crash or a catastrophic software glitch. I hear evil thrown out a lot, but that's a rather simplistic description which is also easy to hide behind for a mental ailment that could strike anybody - including people on these forums. Maybe in some people there's nothing but Evil in their Heart, yeah Evil is being thrown around right now because there can't be any other reasonable answer..
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:08 pm
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose: I can usually resist the urges to stab people in the neck. That's as great quality you feature.
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Brenda
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:31 pm
God I am glad I was not on that bus... I'd have puked and fainted...
Poor kid... I hope his family and loved ones will get some peace of mind eventually... May he rest in peace...
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:20 pm
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose: I can usually resist the urges to stab people in the neck. "usually" That being the operative word here. 
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:25 pm
Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah: Gunnair Gunnair: Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah: The Death Penalty is the only answer to a brutal crime like this, the apologists can keep trying to come up with excuses of why this happen but there's no excuse for this, there can't be..
It's time Canada gets the courage and starts executing Murderers like this SOB.. He'll be put away for life. As for excuses, there aren't any. Reasons? Possibly. Mental health issues at the very least. The guy either had a hard drive crash or a catastrophic software glitch. I hear evil thrown out a lot, but that's a rather simplistic description which is also easy to hide behind for a mental ailment that could strike anybody - including people on these forums. Maybe in some people there's nothing but Evil in their Heart, yeah Evil is being thrown around right now because there can't be any other reasonable answer.. Of course there is. The person had mental issues. Or would you rather believe the devil made him do it?
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snuggles61
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Posts: 323
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:42 pm
llama66 llama66: Hopefully they can declare this guy a dangerous offender and lock his ass away for all time, this guy is a stone cold killer, he deserves to hang, but since we don't have the death penalty, he needs to be removed from society, for the rest of his life. to stab someone repeatedly, cut their head off, and then by some media reports cannibalize this poor kid, is by far the most horrific and grotesque thing I have EVER heard of in Canada. The dangerous offender act is nothing more than lip service.It sounds as intimidating as all hell but in reality it means nothing.And it means much less if the offender in question is intelligent since they are entitled to psychiatric hearings and if they know the rights words to say and it'd not hard to figure out what they are they can speed up the parole process.
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snuggles61
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:53 pm
lily lily: snuggles61 snuggles61: OK ok...I didn't know about the "they were all sleeping" part,and why was politics drawn into this?I've made no indication as to what my political leanings but rest assured I'm neither liberal or conservative,it's just my personal belief that anyone should be able to carry a handgun providing they've convinced the appropriate authorities that it's safe for that certain individual to do so.And finally I've given you no reason whatsoever for you to be shitty to me. How could you NOT know they were all sleeping? It's only been pointed out at least once per page. Maybe go back and read the news article the rest of us are talking about, and make up your own mind. I mean, Bart's a great guy and he writes fairly well, but it's stupid to allow one guy to influence your opinion on the matter. Well perhaps I'm not so stupid since I'm not only letting only Bart's opinion influence me as well,it's just the post where he states and backs up with facts the states that have fewest gun restrictions are the ones with the less crime,and no I didn't read the article,I only heard it on the radio and the tv,excuse me for living.
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snuggles61
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:59 pm
lily lily: Has anyone declared a dangerous offender been released? In all honestly I don't know and nor do I have the time to research into it,but in theory I see nothing from preventing that from happening.If they snow a shrink into thinking their sociopathic tendencies are gone(usually impossible) or suppressed(can be possible),say the right things to the parole board(I found Jesus is the #1 crowd pleaser) and fake remorse for their crimes I see no obstacle standing in their way of parole.
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:01 pm
snuggles61 snuggles61: lily lily: snuggles61 snuggles61: OK ok...I didn't know about the "they were all sleeping" part,and why was politics drawn into this?I've made no indication as to what my political leanings but rest assured I'm neither liberal or conservative,it's just my personal belief that anyone should be able to carry a handgun providing they've convinced the appropriate authorities that it's safe for that certain individual to do so.And finally I've given you no reason whatsoever for you to be shitty to me. How could you NOT know they were all sleeping? It's only been pointed out at least once per page. Maybe go back and read the news article the rest of us are talking about, and make up your own mind. I mean, Bart's a great guy and he writes fairly well, but it's stupid to allow one guy to influence your opinion on the matter. Well perhaps I'm not so stupid since I'm not only letting only Bart's opinion influence me as well,it's just the post where he states and backs up with facts the states that have fewest gun restrictions are the ones with the less crime,and no I didn't read the article,I only heard it on the radio and the tv,excuse me for living. Except for when I bust those stats and continually point to Canadas lower crime and greater gun restrictions and call into question all such conclusions you really REALLY need to do your own research. Thats quite evident by your missing an important detail that you never should have missed.
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