[Unsound]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

sandorski sandorski:

Instead of attacking the content, Ad Hom it through someone involved in crafting it?

I'm sorry Sandra. Was I talking bad about the pooh widdo pedophile? Does that make you sad?

A pedo groomer was involved in creating a sexual education agenda which has been accused of creating a climate where grooming of children for sex might be possible.

The fact former Liberal, Deputy Minister of education, Benjamim Levin is now a convicted pedophile becomes relevant and significant.

Or people could just look at the actual curriculum and decide for themselves.

[Jabberwalker]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

If he was asking them to hurt their children to please him, I'd say the sick fuck got off on brutalizing kids. Too bad they can't place him in gen pop.

Stick him in with Gian as his cell buddy.

[N_Fiddledog]

Unsound Unsound:

Or people could just look at the actual curriculum and decide for themselves.

Or they could do both. Check out the curriculum,



and factor in the fact the agenda for it was created under the oversight and with the input of a now convicted pedophile.

[sandorski]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

sandorski sandorski:

Instead of attacking the content, Ad Hom it through someone involved in crafting it?

I'm sorry Sandra. Was I talking bad about the pooh widdo pedophile? Does that make you sad?

A pedo groomer was involved in creating a sexual education agenda which has been accused of creating a climate where grooming of children for sex might be possible.

The fact former Liberal, Deputy Minister of education, Benjamim Levin is now a convicted pedophile becomes relevant and significant.

The only thing that is relevant is the content of the program. This dude being a pedophile may raise suspicion, but the program can only be judged on its' content.

[andyt]

B.C. sex-ed curriculum should follow Ontario's lead: expert

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.2979102

Probably another pedo.

[N_Fiddledog]

andyt andyt:

B.C. sex-ed curriculum should follow Ontario's lead: expert

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.2979102

Probably another pedo.

Not from the interview I saw of her. She was more this claimed "expert" with cookie cutter opinions, speaking in platitudes and aping Progressive group think.

But let's see if I follow you.

There's this Deputy Minister of Education in Ontario.

In an interview he gave with the Institute of Studies in Education he claimed...

$1:

I was the Deputy Minister of Education. I was the chief civil servant. I was responsible for the Ministry of Education and everything they do; I was brought in to implement the new education policy

So today, that guy was shown not just to be a pedo, but to be teaching other pedos how to groom kids. He admitted it in court. Further evidence came out today showing he did have something to do with the Ontario schools curriculum that has been accused of preparing kids for sexual grooming.

But that doesn't matter. That's irrelevant, right Andy? What's relevant is some TV "expert" from the other coast who likes the Ontario Program, because, I don't know, it's Progressive, or something.

Is that what you're saying? Because that's ridiculous.

[N_Fiddledog]

Watch Pedo Ben get grilled by a journalist as he walks out of the courtroom. See why his connection to the school curriculum matters.



Or as Ezra says, "Ben Levin's ideas belong in prison, not in our schools."

[BeaverFever]

Deputy Ministers don't write education curriculum. The curriculum as developed through multi year consultation with a wide range of government and non-government parties including many outside of Ontario

[Freakinoldguy]

Could someone explain to me why when a gov't organization like Immigration Canada changes regulations that offend some immigrants and their supporters it's the Harper Gov'ts fault but, when Ontario changes their sex ed program to include topics that offend some parents it's suddenly got nothing to do with that gov't or their convicted pedophile deputy minister who oversaw it's drafting?

Just saying.

[OnTheIce]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Deputy Ministers don't write education curriculum. The curriculum as developed through multi year consultation with a wide range of government and non-government parties including many outside of Ontario

They may not physically write the curriculum but they are involved with creating the content. That has been confirmed by the man himself.

[Zipperfish]

What specifically is the issue with the curriculum? I haven't heard anyone comment on it at all. Admittedly, this is not rare among the tightie-righties who aren't goping to let anything get in the way of a righteous dudgeon. Based on the level of reaction here, it must be something pretty horrible.

[Unsound]

Its about sex!!!!! Kids will hear about sex!!!! Our pure innocent children will immediately begin having butt-sex orgies on the playground when they're exposed to the knowledge that butt sex is a thing. And they're gonna be told that the gays aren't a vast conspiracy trying to convert all those children to their evil ways.

[BartSimpson]

Unsound Unsound:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

sandorski sandorski:

Instead of attacking the content, Ad Hom it through someone involved in crafting it?

Isn't that your standard practice?

Pretty much everyone's practice when they think they can get away with it.

Yeah, but then you're one of them there Denmarkian types...

[BartSimpson]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Watch Pedo Ben get grilled by a journalist as he walks out of the courtroom. See why his connection to the school curriculum matters.



Or as Ezra says, "Ben Levin's ideas belong in prison, not in our schools."

The .pdf of this current curriculum is available here:

http://www.edu.gov.on.ca/eng/curriculum ... th1to8.pdf

[Zipperfish]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

The .pdf of this current curriculum is available here:

http://www.edu.gov.on.ca/eng/curriculum ... th1to8.pdf

Just found it myself. Here are the offending cluases:

Grade 1:

$1:

Human Development and Sexual Health
C1.3 identify body parts, including genitalia (e.g., penis, testicles, vagina, vulva), using correct terminology [PS]
Teacher prompt: “We talk about all body parts with respect. Why is it important to know about your own body, and use correct names for the parts of your body?”

Student: “All parts of my body are a part of me, and I need to know how to take care of and talk about my own body. If I’m hurt or need help, and I know the right words, other people will know what I’m talking about.”

Grade 3:

$1:

Human Development and Sexual Health
C1.3 identify the characteristics of healthy relationships (e.g., accepting differences, being inclusive, communicating openly, listening, showing mutual respect and caring, being honest) and describe ways of overcoming challenges (e.g., bullying, exclusion, peer pressure, abuse) in a relationship [IS]
Teacher prompt: “Consider different types of relationships – with friends, siblings, parents, other adults – and think about the kinds of behaviour that help to make those relationships healthier. What can you do if you are having problems with a relationship?”