[Newsbot]

Title: jury convicts pharmacist for killing robbery suspect at drug store
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: andyt
Date: 2011-05-27 10:24:49

[andyt]

Good to see there's a limit to make my day.

[Choban]

Yah, sounds like the extenuating factor was the extra shots fired after the threat was over, I'm all for protecting your property form the scum bags but 5 extra shots to the abdomen after he'd already hit him in the head was too much

[commanderkai]

First degree murder is a bit much, though, but eh. Most likely it'll be successfully repealed, or the sentence reduced.

[raydan]

I'm a bit torn here. Although I think he has to be punished, I don't think he's a danger to society.

[andyt]

raydan raydan:

I'm a bit torn here. Although I think he has to be punished, I don't think he's a danger to society.

Really? So what is he being punished for?

[billypilgrim]

i don't like that verdict one bit.

[Scape]

Me neither. 1st degree? This will get appealed I hope. 5 shots after the fact is rage. That's manslaughter not 1st degree. At at what point can they defend themselves and it be ok from shoplifters anyway?

[andyt]

I figured there would be at least one of you out there. So you think killing a person who is no threat to you at all is justified?

I could certainly see a verdict of 2nd degree.

[fifeboy]

commanderkai commanderkai:

First degree murder is a bit much, though, but eh. Most likely it'll be successfully repealed, or the sentence reduced.

So, you are saying he didn't "think about it" as he went to get the second gun?

[billypilgrim]

andyt andyt:

I figured there would be at least one of you out there. So you think killing a person who is no threat to you at all is justified?.

no. context, andy, context.

[andyt]

billypilgrim billypilgrim:

andyt andyt:

I figured there would be at least one of you out there. So you think killing a person who is no threat to you at all is justified?.

no. context, andy, context.

What's the context? The kid was lying there unconscious, no threat to anybody. How is it not just execution to shoot him at that point.

The kid who was with him pled guilty to murder, since it's considered that if somebody you're doing a crime with gets killed. The two guys who put these kids up to this were convicted of murder for the same reason. Makes sense that they guy who actually did the shooting would also be convicted of murder.

[billypilgrim]

andyt andyt:

billypilgrim billypilgrim:

andyt andyt:

I figured there would be at least one of you out there. So you think killing a person who is no threat to you at all is justified?.

no. context, andy, context.

What's the context? The kid was lying there unconscious, no threat to anybody. How is it not just execution to shoot him at that point.

The kid who was with him pled guilty to murder, since it's considered that if somebody you're doing a crime with gets killed. The two guys who put these kids up to this were convicted of murder for the same reason. Makes sense that they guy who actually did the shooting would also be convicted of murder.

i get it, trust me. but i imagine myself in the same situation and the context becomes fear, rage, etc..

i know what you're saying and all, but i don't like the verdict anyway. i prefer a world where a man can kill a robber without hassle. i think robbers should fear the shop owner, because they sure as shit don't fear the law.

for all the times we've seen robbers just straight kill shop owners, i could imagine this guy felt it best to be sure it was over for sure. i can't imagine how scary and chaotic that situation would be. who knows what the average man would do with a head full of adrenaline and fear like that..

it's a damn shame that a regular guy is just going about his day and then this bullshit finds him.. don't like it, never will.

[andyt]

A world where you can act out your rage with no consequence is not one I want to live in. A world where you can just kill a robber, not in self defense but in rage is not one I want to live in.

The situation wasn't chaotic at all. He shot the guy, tried to chase the other guy, then came back and got a second gun to pump five rounds into the first guy. That's just execution. I have no problem with the first shot he fired, that was self-defense. But those last 5, that's the problem.

[raydan]

billypilgrim billypilgrim:

i get it, trust me. but i imagine myself in the same situation and the context becomes fear, rage, etc..

i know what you're saying and all, but i don't like the verdict anyway. i prefer a world where a man can kill a robber without hassle. i think robbers should fear the shop owner, because they sure as shit don't fear the law.

for all the times we've seen robbers just straight kill shop owners, i could imagine this guy felt it best to be sure it was over for sure. i can't imagine how scary and chaotic that situation would be. who knows what the average man would do with a head full of adrenaline and fear like that..

it's a damn shame that a regular guy is just going about his day and then this bullshit finds him.. don't like it, never will.

In this case though, he's not "the average man", he's a former Air Force lieutenant colonel. Surely knows how to use firearms and trained to handle stressful situations.