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Title: Julian Assange: iPhone, Blackberry, Gmail users are 'all screwed'
Category: Tech
Posted By: kitty
Date: 2011-12-02 16:29:52
Canadian

[Prof_Chomsky]

I love how Blackberry is continually dragged through the mud with it's totally insecure counterparts in iPhone and Android.
I'm not speaking out of naivitiy either. Maybe someday the media will actually research this crap before they post it as fact. And the fact is, Blackberries ARE secure. So secure in fact that foreign governments force RIM to allow access to SOME data, and even then the default server encryption IS still secure and encrypted.

[jeff744]

Apparently almost every nation's government's independent studies to the security of Blackberrys is wrong.

[Canadian_Mind]

Simple question, when using a blackberry, does anyone else have access to what I say over text or BBM?

[BRAH]

Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky:

I love how Blackberry is continually dragged through the mud with it's totally insecure counterparts in iPhone and Android.
I'm not speaking out of naivitiy either. Maybe someday the media will actually research this crap before they post it as fact. And the fact is, Blackberries ARE secure. So secure in fact that foreign governments force RIM to allow access to SOME data, and even then the default server encryption IS still secure and encrypted.

I use BlackBerry for work I-Phone for personal use and there's a reason I and millions of others use BlackBerry for work because as you said it's more secure.

Jules is already a has been, screw him!

[DrCaleb]

BRAH BRAH:

Jules is already a has been, screw him!

I think it interesting, the effect that one arrest can have.

[BartSimpson]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Simple question, when using a blackberry, does anyone else have access to what I say over text or BBM?

Yes. If you transmit it over the net or over the air it can be intercepted and decrypting the content is merely an academic question of who wants to know what you said and how badly do they want to know it.

In this day of complex encryption processes the old standard of the one-time cipher pad is still the one thing anyone can do that utterly stymies the intelligence wonks.

[Prof_Chomsky]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Simple question, when using a blackberry, does anyone else have access to what I say over text or BBM?

The answer is yes and no.
BBM messages are all sent using a shared encryption key no one has cracked despite years of trying to. But since it's shared a court could maybe order it be released, I'm not too sure.
Text messages aren't secure so you are fubar.
But any corporate messages sent on the BlackBerry, or web traffic, or even BBM if you enable it on the server are 100% secure and encrypted. It's been a decade of people trying to crack the codes and they can't, which is why these repressive countries are pissed off. They want access and even RIM can't grant it because the codes are all unique and unknowable. Which is the sole reason every major corporation, government and military in the world uses BlackBerry instead of Android of iPhone.

[Canadian_Mind]

Ok, cool.

[BartSimpson]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Simple question, when using a blackberry, does anyone else have access to what I say over text or BBM?

Yes. Your phone and service provider can access your unencrypted messages for 'quality assurance' purposes, the CSIS can read your messages for national security reasons, RIM would be utterly stupid if they did not have a back door to their product, and foreign intellignece agencies probably have access, too.

Seriously, electronic communications should not ever be assumed to be totally secure.

If you're doing anything that your government might question then do it via the mail.

[Freakinoldguy]

You don't want people knowing what you're talking about on you cell phone, do what I do.

Use a freakin land line. At least they have to get a court order before they can tap that source.

Technology isn't all that grand is it.

[BartSimpson]

There's also this: http://www.securstar.com/products_phonecrypt.php

[Thanos]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

You don't want people knowing what you're talking about on you cell phone, do what I do.

Use a freakin land line. At least they have to get a court order before they can tap that source.

Technology isn't all that grand is it.

It sucks. Now you can't even find a record store to buy music in anymore and apprently the mere act of going to another store to rent a movie turned out to be too much of a hassle. Most of this obnoxious gadgetry can be taken and flushed down a toilet for all I care. We'd survive and probably be better for it too.

[raydan]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

You don't want people knowing what you're talking about on you cell phone, do what I do.

Use a freakin land line. At least they have to get a court order before they can tap that source.

Technology isn't all that grand is it.

For my job, a land-line is what I have to use since I work from home... no cells allowed... and I have to transmit reports through a phone modem.

[ShepherdsDog]

I thought you communicated through sub space to your Vorlon overlords.