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Title: John Robson: Our constitution is in dire need of fixing | National Post
Category: Political
Posted By: shockedcanadian
Date: 2016-02-16 08:59:24
Canadian

[uwish]

how do you get those whom you want to strip of the ability to change our rights, to sit down and change the very thing that gives them that control?

While I like the article, and I do believe it has some relevance in our modern world, i fear nothing will ever change until we are so taxed, regulated and beaten down that people start to rebel en mass.

It's happening in the US as we speak..who would have thought that the suspension of constitutional guarantees would NOT have lead to another civil war? I think when and if this gets much worse, you will see a massive uprising but not by the organized..it will be by the one off incidents that the state will easily just play down as lunatics and criminals.

[DanSC]

uwish uwish:

It's happening in the US as we speak..who would have thought that the suspension of constitutional guarantees would NOT have lead to another civil war?

What?

We're not about to have a civil war.

[shockedcanadian]

Wrong. This isn't about violent upheavel, it's about holding politicians to a much higher standard and citizens thinking past their own desires and considering more what is best for the nation long term. I have said it before; the greatest national security threat is excessive borrowing.

An upheaval would be voting in a demagogue or say, a party that would otherwise never be elected. The free market will take care of Canada, nepotism, cronyism and our desire for debt, we refuse to play in the big leagues now called "globalization". So creative, free nations will innovate, others will follow fossils and continue to slide.

[BeaverFever]

Funny how conservatives only write about how flawed Canada is and want top-to-bottom reform when the other party is in Power.

I could pick apart the article for a host of other reasons, most notably citing Ezra Levant, but it's pointless.

[Lemmy]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

I have said it before; the greatest national security threat is excessive borrowing.

It doesn't make you right, however, no matter how many times you say it.

[BartSimpson]

DanSC DanSC:

uwish uwish:

It's happening in the US as we speak..who would have thought that the suspension of constitutional guarantees would NOT have lead to another civil war?

What?

We're not about to have a civil war.

Nope, there won't be anything civil about it at all.

[Thanos]

Pretty sure the Reform Party was as close as Canada will ever get to a revolutionary change to the system, and it fell apart when it got eaten up by it's own contradictions and obsession with economic austerity. This is not a revolutionary country and never will be.

[Hmmmm]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

voting in .... a party that would otherwise never be elected.

Huh?

[Hmmmm]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

citizens thinking past their own desires and considering more what is best for the nation long term .....

.... would be really nice. Pardon my cynicism, but good luck with that!

[shockedcanadian]

The NDP were voted in Alberta so ANYTHING can happen after that. The current Liberal Party has a unique circumstance in which they have powerful support to do what is necessary to uphold our Charter, and by the son who created it!

Will Trudeau force certain agencies to operate as other democracies or will he fall victim to being lulled to sleep and believing only his supporters and not understand how much Canadians miss civil liberties? An honest form of liberty. I listened to him in interviews before the election and he made it a strong point to tell voters that he understands how people were upset with Liberal cronyism and losing their way, he vowed to get back to ethical standards, he answered tough questions. I am going to watch with some optimism, it is the single most important issue and it will impact not only our social but also our economic progress.

Only time will tell if he is more of the "same old same old", he must be aware that our future success depend on the course he sets us on. The rest will take a longer time as cultural changes take time. Just ask the RCMP...

[martin14]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

The NDP were voted in Alberta so ANYTHING can happen after that. The current Liberal Party has a unique circumstance in which they have powerful support to do what is necessary to uphold our Charter, and by the son who created it!

Will Trudeau force certain agencies to operate as other democracies or will he fall victim to being lulled to sleep and believing only his supporters and not understand how much Canadians miss civil liberties? An honest form of liberty. I listened to him in interviews before the election and he made it a strong point to tell voters that he understands how people were upset with Liberal cronyism and losing their way, he vowed to get back to ethical standards, he answered tough questions. I am going to watch with some optimism, it is the single most important issue and it will impact not only our social but also our economic progress.

Only time will tell if he is more of the "same old same old", he must be aware that our future success depend on the course he sets us on. The rest will take a longer time as cultural changes take time. Just ask the RCMP...

Man, that was really funny. Thanks.

[Prof_Chomsky]

I'm more than for a total rewrite of our Constitution in the vein of what occurred in Japan and Germany after WW2. We need to modernize our laws to fit the age.

BUT...
The problem is, our current spineless, useless, corrupt, brainless wave of politicians is what got us into this mess in the first place. I don't know that I'd trust anyone in this age to actually write us a new GOOD constitution. If anything they'd wind up shafting everyone even worse.

[PluggyRug]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

The NDP were voted in Alberta so ANYTHING can happen after that. The current Liberal Party has a unique circumstance in which they have powerful support to do what is necessary to uphold our Charter, and by the son who created it!

Will Trudeau force certain agencies to operate as other democracies or will he fall victim to being lulled to sleep and believing only his supporters and not understand how much Canadians miss civil liberties? An honest form of liberty. I listened to him in interviews before the election and he made it a strong point to tell voters that he understands how people were upset with Liberal cronyism and losing their way, he vowed to get back to ethical standards, he answered tough questions. I am going to watch with some optimism, it is the single most important issue and it will impact not only our social but also our economic progress.

Only time will tell if he is more of the "same old same old", he must be aware that our future success depend on the course he sets us on. The rest will take a longer time as cultural changes take time. Just ask the RCMP...

That's like planting eggs and expecting chickens to grow.

[Thanos]

If most of the country shit themselves over a handful of entirely fair reforms to the Senate that the Reform Party proposed then I'd wager that a complete overhaul of the entire constitution would be impossible. When interviewed a decade or so ago, Peter Lougheed and a couple of the other Western premiers of the era said they never would have signed off on the Charter if they'd had any idea in advance that it would unleash endless judicial activism that would pretty much neuter both the federal Parliament and the provincial legislatures when it came to enforcing and making new law, especially criminal law. Another constitutional conference would be a waste of time because no one would give an inch on anything, not after 30+ years of seeing what kind of damage a hyper-liberal judiciary can cause.