[Newsbot]

Title: isoHunt shut down, Canadian torrent firm fined $110M US
Category: Tech
Posted By: ShepherdsDog
Date: 2013-10-23 07:08:01
Canadian

[saturn_656]

Didnt't know isohunt was Canadian based.

Another one bites the dust.

[Lemmy]

One site closes, ten new ones open. But keep trying to finger the dyke.

[Thanos]

Depends on what she smells like. Don't want any of that stuff sticking to my fingers.

[DrCaleb]

She smells like information wants to be free, even if the old guard thinks their best business model is to sue the customers they expect to buy their products.

[Unsound]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

the old guard thinks their best business model is to sue the customers they expect to buy their products.

They just don't learn do they? The music industry has lost every time it's tried fighting technological progress.

[DrCaleb]

Unsound Unsound:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

the old guard thinks their best business model is to sue the customers they expect to buy their products.

They just don't learn do they? The music industry has lost every time it's tried fighting technological progress.

And the more they whine about losses due to piracy, the more their own figures show the exact opposite. But still, the lobby has enough power to change laws that let them change civil violations into criminal, and actually ruin people's lives.

And they keep feeding us 'artists' like Kanye West and Miley Cyrus.

[OnTheIce]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Unsound Unsound:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

the old guard thinks their best business model is to sue the customers they expect to buy their products.

They just don't learn do they? The music industry has lost every time it's tried fighting technological progress.

And the more they whine about losses due to piracy, the more their own figures show the exact opposite. But still, the lobby has enough power to change laws that let them change civil violations into criminal, and actually ruin people's lives.

And they keep feeding us 'artists' like Kanye West and Miley Cyrus.

Music sales have been dropping steadily for quite a few years and will continue to do so. Music sales were at 32 billion or so in 2010 and will hit 26-27 next year.

Digital music sales are increasing but the overall industry is dropping.

[Thanos]

Maybe because the old proven model of selling CD's, tapes, and LP's from a store staffed by humans was infinitely preferable to a download from god knows where that potentially contsans god knows what in terms of viruses or defective copy. And you could also return your CD to the store if it was fucked but if your download is botched you're SOL. But going to the mall to buy something is such a hassle...

Actually have channels play music videos again instead of 24-hours worth of Kardashians, reruns of Glee, or dance contests with C-list celebrities, and sales of music might return to the levels seen in decades past. The music channels were a low cost promotion machine that literally barfed money for these idiots as it showed fans to see who was doing the work. How the smartest guys in the room that run this shit industry keep killing a golden goose that should last forever is kinda unbelievable.

[Unsound]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Music sales have been dropping steadily for quite a few years and will continue to do so. Music sales were at 32 billion or so in 2010 and will hit 26-27 next year.

Digital music sales are increasing but the overall industry is dropping.

Don't lynch me if I'm wrong, but i do believe i heard live music revenues are making up for the losses in recording sales. Really, they're just going back in time to when an album was an advertisement for the tour, rather than the other way around. Means the artists are going to have to work harder, and it's going to be harder for the suits to get their cut but in the ned it still works out ok for most artists and fans.

[OnTheIce]

Thanos Thanos:

Maybe because the old proven model of selling CD's, tapes, and LP's from a store staffed by humans was infinitely preferable to a download from god knows where that potentially contsans god knows what in terms of viruses or defective copy. And you could also return your CD to the store if it was fucked but if your download is botched you're SOL. But going to the mall to buy something is such a hassle...

Actually have channels play music videos again instead of 24-hours worth of Kardashians, reruns of Glee, or dance contests with C-list celebrities, and sales of music might return to the levels seen in decades past. The music channels were a low cost promotion machine that literally barfed money for these idiots as it showed fans to see who was doing the work. How the smartest guys in the room that run this shit industry keep killing a golden goose that should last forever is kinda unbelievable.

Wow, total old man rant there.

Why you're mixing awful TV in with music is beyond me, but you do have a point. TV is shit these days.

[OnTheIce]

Unsound Unsound:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Music sales have been dropping steadily for quite a few years and will continue to do so. Music sales were at 32 billion or so in 2010 and will hit 26-27 next year.

Digital music sales are increasing but the overall industry is dropping.

Don't lynch me if I'm wrong, but i do believe i heard live music revenues are making up for the losses in recording sales. Really, they're just going back in time to when an album was an advertisement for the tour, rather than the other way around. Means the artists are going to have to work harder, and it's going to be harder for the suits to get their cut but in the ned it still works out ok for most artists and fans.

And that's great if that's the case. Performers will reap the rewards with higher income due to better shows. We want good entertainers.

There are a lot of acts that put on a terrible show and suffer because of it. Then you have artists like Pink who put on a fantastic show and have people going back multiple times just because it was so good the first time.

[DrCaleb]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Unsound Unsound:

They just don't learn do they? The music industry has lost every time it's tried fighting technological progress.

And the more they whine about losses due to piracy, the more their own figures show the exact opposite. But still, the lobby has enough power to change laws that let them change civil violations into criminal, and actually ruin people's lives.

And they keep feeding us 'artists' like Kanye West and Miley Cyrus.

Music sales have been dropping steadily for quite a few years and will continue to do so. Music sales were at 32 billion or so in 2010 and will hit 26-27 next year.

Digital music sales are increasing but the overall industry is dropping.

Exactly. But it's not because of Piracy, as their own figures show. It might actually be the only reason people still buy CDs and DVDs.

$1:

Digital piracy not harming entertainment industries: study
British researchers say music, movie industries have been helped by file sharing

A new study by researchers at the London School of Economics suggests the music and movie industries have been exaggerating the impact digital file sharing has had on their bottom line and found that for some creative industries, copyright infringement might actually be helping boost revenues.

Researchers within the British university's media department examined sales data and found that the music, gaming, movie and publishing industries are all growing and adopting new business models based on digital sharing.

'Contrary to the industry claims, the music industry is not in terminal decline but still holding ground and showing healthy profits.'
- Bart Cammaerts, study author

The study found that internet-based revenues have been a significant component of the music industry's growth since 2004 as the industry has slowly adopted methods of distributing and consuming content modelled on those used by file-sharing services and sites such as BitTorrent, Pirate Bay and the now defunct Napster, which pioneered music file sharing in the 1990s.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/digital ... -1.1894729

[Zipperfish]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

She smells like information wants to be free, even if the old guard thinks their best business model is to sue the customers they expect to buy their products.

Why not? Walmart charges people that steal from their store.

Artists deserve compensation. All the theives know. The hilarious part is these pretty facades they put up to justify their actions--"Business model", "technology revolution" "just screwing the Man"

Stealing ain't that hard to wrap yer head around, and downloading an artist's siongs without paying is staling.

[Zipperfish]

Unsound Unsound:

Don't lynch me if I'm wrong, but i do believe i heard live music revenues are making up for the losses in recording sales. Really, they're just going back in time to when an album was an advertisement for the tour, rather than the other way around. Means the artists are going to have to work harder, and it's going to be harder for the suits to get their cut but in the ned it still works out ok for most artists and fans.

They pretty much have to do more live shows now; you aren't going to make much off sales with the freeloaders.

I don't know what kind of fantasy world you have to live in to imagine that ripping off an artist's song works out well for them.

Just pay the $1.99 or whatever it is. It's a toonie. Especially for the new bands.