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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:38 am
 


[popcorn]


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:39 am
 


ridenrain ridenrain:
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I'm done with you on this thread.


5 posts ago... :roll:

Just like a Liberal. :D


yeah and you were all hugs and kisses with him in the town hall / health care thread too. :roll:

In fact I think you were wondering why the mods weren't taking notice. :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:40 am
 


Dude. You said your done. Why are you being such a drama queen again?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:43 am
 


Why are you bothering to comment when you have nothing to add?

"I hated breaking my last word statement but when you find gold you just got to share it. You go ahead and repost your Frasier institute link but the fact is Canadians aren't being taxed more then most people on earth."

I recall you are the master at saying you are done but then continuing. Consider it an homage.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:47 am
 


PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
[popcorn]

Move over and give me some room on the couch.
I can't wait until the bitch slapping starts. [popcorn]


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:48 am
 


raydan raydan:
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
[popcorn]

Move over and give me some room on the couch.
I can't wait until the bitch slapping starts. [popcorn]


Heyyyyy no problem. Then end seats recline too [B-o]


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:49 am
 


Perhaps we should charge admission. 8)


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:52 am
 


DerbyX DerbyX:
Perhaps we should charge admission. 8)


Watching you attempt a debate it like watching an trapeze artist without arms.

I'll spend my money on popcorn and a movie.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:54 am
 


$1:
You can post your false data all you want but the facts are that Canada pays about middle of the pack taxes.
It's not false data and you have no reason at all to suggest that it is. Once again you miss the point and produce a chart from one single year that shows ups INCOME TAX ONLY.

And once again I am forced to show you the stats for 30 years running on Income tax, Property tax, sales tax and goods and services taxes COMBINED:
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Table 8.2: Percentage Change in Taxes From 1965 to 1996

Total change (Percentage)
Change by tax type (Percentage)

Profit and Income
Social Security
Property
Goods and Services

United States 17.3 15.4 118.8 -20.5 10.9
Japan 55.2 30.0 160.0 113.3 8.3
United Kingdom 18.4 16.8 31.9 13.6 25.7
Canada 42.1 74.0 328.6 2.7 13.3 <--- More than most on earth.
OECD average 45.0 47.3 104.2 0.0 23.7 <--- This is the middle Derby, accept it.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:55 am
 


OnTheIce OnTheIce:
DerbyX DerbyX:
Perhaps we should charge admission. 8)


Watching you attempt a debate it like watching an trapeze artist without arms.

I'll spend my money on popcorn and a movie.


I think the same about you most days but since you attempted a decent question and I provided a decent answer I'd like a response to this:

$1:
Yes I would. I am against the idea of the government going into to debt by giving money away. I'm not against things like the home reno credit and I thought Canada should have some sort of tax credit for new car buying as well but I do not like the government going into debt some 50 billion dollars in a single year. Any stimulus I do favour I also feel should have been hedged by a tax increase. Even a small increase would alleviate a significant amount of the deficit.

If you were so for it you wouldn't be trying to make absolutely certain that everybody but Harper takes as much responsibility as possible for that deficit.

I can tolerate some debt and so could the opposition. They supported a budget far below the 50+ billion deficit it ballooned to.

Now the question is what would you be saying if Dion had won the election and/or a coalition had taken control and we ended up with the same 50+ billion deficit.

I have no illusions that every single con on here would be vilifying them with all kinds of rants about socialism, tax and spend, etc. Are you going to tell me you would be so forgiving if Dion were running the deficit as you are for Harper?


Feel free to post more insults though. :roll:


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$1:
You can post your false data all you want but the facts are that Canada pays about middle of the pack taxes.
It's not false data and you have no reason at all to suggest that it is. In fact it's from the same organization you've relied on for stats pertaing ONLY to income tax and only for one year. So when you call it false data once again you're just talking out of your ass.

Once again you miss the point and produce a chart from one single year that shows ups INCOME TAX ONLY.

And once again I am forced to show you the stats for 30 years running on Income tax, Property tax, sales tax and goods and services taxes COMBINED:
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Table 8.2: Percentage Change in Taxes From 1965 to 1996

Total change (Percentage)
Change by tax type (Percentage)

Profit and Income
Social Security
Property
Goods and Services

United States 17.3 15.4 118.8 -20.5 10.9
Japan 55.2 30.0 160.0 113.3 8.3
United Kingdom 18.4 16.8 31.9 13.6 25.7
Canada 42.1 74.0 328.6 2.7 13.3 <--- More than most on earth.
OECD average 45.0 47.3 104.2 0.0 23.7 <--- This is the middle Derby, accept it.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:57 am
 


Akhenaten Akhenaten:
$1:
You can post your false data all you want but the facts are that Canada pays about middle of the pack taxes.
It's not false data and you have no reason at all to suggest that it is. Once again you miss the point and produce a chart from one single year that shows ups INCOME TAX ONLY.

And once again I am forced to show you the stats for 30 years running on Income tax, Property tax, sales tax and goods and services taxes COMBINED:
$1:
Table 8.2: Percentage Change in Taxes From 1965 to 1996

Total change (Percentage)
Change by tax type (Percentage)

Profit and Income
Social Security
Property
Goods and Services

United States 17.3 15.4 118.8 -20.5 10.9
Japan 55.2 30.0 160.0 113.3 8.3
United Kingdom 18.4 16.8 31.9 13.6 25.7
Canada 42.1 74.0 328.6 2.7 13.3 <--- More than most on earth.
OECD average 45.0 47.3 104.2 0.0 23.7 <--- This is the middle Derby, accept it.


Nope. I have posted data concerning VAT/sales tax over and over and over and we aren't that high up. I've posted corporate tax rates although that doesn't affect (directly) the individual it affects the other tax rates.

You cling to a single biased sample while I have posted numerous sites including the OECD data showing we are middle of the pack.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:59 am
 


You'll also note that my data comes from many different years over and over and in fact some sites span decades. :roll:


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$1:
You cling to a single biased
No basis at all to say this, but of course that doesn't stop you. It's OECD data. Nothing bias about it. Same thing you're quoting except it's not one year and only one type of tax.

$1:
I have posted numerous sites including the OECD data showing we are middle of the pack.
Nope. Not a single one of them include all forms of tax. You cherry pick one tax and one year whereas I showed you data from the SAME SOURCE you've relied on only now it's all forms of tax and for 30 years running. It proves exactly what I said. We pay more taxes than most on earth and muchmor than middle of the pack:
$1:
Table 8.2: Percentage Change in Taxes From 1965 to 1996

Total change (Percentage)
Change by tax type (Percentage)

Profit and Income
Social Security
Property
Goods and Services

United States 17.3 15.4 118.8 -20.5 10.9
Japan 55.2 30.0 160.0 113.3 8.3
United Kingdom 18.4 16.8 31.9 13.6 25.7
Canada 42.1 74.0 328.6 2.7 13.3 <--- More than most on earth.
[b]OECD average 45.0 47.3 104.2 0.0 23.7 <--- This is the middle Derby, accept it.OECD data, Derby, not bias sample.


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$1:
You'll also note that my data comes from many different years over and over and in fact some sites span decades
Nope. Each time you show a chart showing one type of tax and one year. I've shown you the compulation and you call it 'bias sample'. You're a desperate clinger who just can't accept the truth.


One more time since you can't argue it except to call it bias (hardy-har-har) even though it's the same source you're using:
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Table 8.2: Percentage Change in Taxes From 1965 to 1996

Total change (Percentage)
Change by tax type (Percentage)

Profit and Income
Social Security
Property
Goods and Services

United States 17.3 15.4 118.8 -20.5 10.9
Japan 55.2 30.0 160.0 113.3 8.3
United Kingdom 18.4 16.8 31.9 13.6 25.7
Canada 42.1 74.0 328.6 2.7 13.3 <--- More than most on earth.
OECD average 45.0 47.3 104.2 0.0 23.7 <--- This is the middle Derby, accept it.OECD data, Derby, not bias sample.


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