[Newsbot]

Title: Gun registry survives by two votes
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: tritium
Date: 2010-09-22 15:23:06
Canadian

[tritium]

LOL Canadian's are dumb thinking a Gun Registry does anything to prevent crime. Just the Liberals and NDP trying to strip away more rights of Canadian's and creating a bigger nanny state.

Seriously, do you think a criminal are going to register their gun before he goes out and robs a bank or kills his rival drug dealer, or innocent bi-standard??

Canada is neighbors with the largest gun manufacturer in the world, the USA. Guns being smuggled into Canada will never stop and always get into the hands of the criminals... a lesson Mexico is learning the hard way.

What Canada needs to do is take the money wasted on a lame gun registry and put it towards police, more jails and longer jail sentences from criminals.. bring back the death penalty.

NRA slogan fit's best; "I'll give you my gun when you take it from my cold, dead hands!"

[quote="BartSimpson"][quote="tritium"]LOL Canadian's are dumb thinking a Gun Registry does anything to prevent crime. [/quote]

Exactly.

Gun registries no more prevent crimes than vehicle registrations prevent speeding, drunk driving, vehicular assauts, and vehicle thefts. [/quote]

[Gunnair]

Of course criminals don't register firearms, and that's been the idiotic clarion call of the anti-registry types since day one.

Criminals may not register their firearms, but I'd be curious to know how many killings and weapons offences were done by dedicated criminals (ie gang members) and those done by either seedier members of the public, or regular joes losing their shit with a weapon.

If any of these offences are one time offenders by average joe going through a divorce, getting retardedly drunk, or being an idiot, their registered weapons will show up and the police will then know that going to a domestic with average joe losing his shit on his wife and posessing a houseful of shotguns will give the cops the knoweldge beforehand that there will be other factors to consider.

[FieryVulpine]

For me it's just another excuse for the west to secede from the rest of the country. Granted, I understand the reasoning behind the registry, why did it have to take over one billion dollars out of the taxpayers' pockets and continue to bleed money that could be better spent? All for a registry whose effectiveness is questionable at best and little more than a symbol of Liberal indulgence.

The registry have have survived by the skin off its teeth but the debate over it is far from over.

[tritium]

FieryVulpine FieryVulpine:

For me it's just another excuse for the west to secede from the rest of the country. Granted, I understand the reasoning behind the registry, why did it have to take over one billion dollars out of the taxpayers' pockets and continue to bleed money that could be better spent? All for a registry whose effectiveness is questionable at best and little more than a symbol of Liberal indulgence.

The registry have have survived by the skin off its teeth but the debate over it is far from over.

...and join the USA..

[Gunnair]

tritium tritium:

FieryVulpine FieryVulpine:

For me it's just another excuse for the west to secede from the rest of the country. Granted, I understand the reasoning behind the registry, why did it have to take over one billion dollars out of the taxpayers' pockets and continue to bleed money that could be better spent? All for a registry whose effectiveness is questionable at best and little more than a symbol of Liberal indulgence.

The registry have have survived by the skin off its teeth but the debate over it is far from over.

...and join the USA..

Fuck that.

Your bucking for an anti-Canuck medal I see.

[Zipperfish]

Fuck that x 2.

Speak for yourself FieryVulva, I'm not going anywhere, you separatist.

[Gunnair]

FieryVulpine FieryVulpine:

For me it's just another excuse for the west to secede from the rest of the country. Granted, I understand the reasoning behind the registry, why did it have to take over one billion dollars out of the taxpayers' pockets and continue to bleed money that could be better spent? All for a registry whose effectiveness is questionable at best and little more than a symbol of Liberal indulgence.

The registry have have survived by the skin off its teeth but the debate over it is far from over.

Pity you aren't pissing yourself silly over the billion our current government spent on the G8/G20.

[FieryVulpine]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Speak for yourself FieryVulva, I'm not going anywhere, you separatist.

Huh, where did I say I was speaking for the West? Perhaps it was implied so that was error on my part so I will clarify and add this disclaimer: that is my MY opinion and does not reflect the consensus of western Canada in any way shape or form.

Oh, and to resort to name calling? That is the [sarcasm]hallmark of maturity.[/sarcasm] Not that I'm innocent of it, nor am I proud of it, but still...

Gunnair Gunnair:

Pity you aren't pissing yourself silly over the billion our current government spent on the G8/G20.

Sounds like a bit of a non-sequitir to me but no, I wasn't thrilled with the price tag but if there's a real alternative to Harper, I'll happily take it. And no, Iggy and Layton don't count.

[Brenda]

You have to register your car, your RV, you have wear a helmet on a bicycle, you cannot smoke indoors or in a Vancouver park, but everybody should be able to freely own a gun?
The logic escapes me...

[Unsound]

Gunnair Gunnair:

If any of these offences are one time offenders by average joe going through a divorce, getting retardedly drunk, or being an idiot, their registered weapons will show up and the police will then know that going to a domestic with average joe losing his shit on his wife and posessing a houseful of shotguns will give the cops the knoweldge beforehand that there will be other factors to consider.

The problem with this theory, as explained to me by actual cops, is that no matter what the registery tells them about the person or house they're going to, they have to treat every call as though there could be weapons involved.

[Gunnair]

Unsound Unsound:

Gunnair Gunnair:

If any of these offences are one time offenders by average joe going through a divorce, getting retardedly drunk, or being an idiot, their registered weapons will show up and the police will then know that going to a domestic with average joe losing his shit on his wife and posessing a houseful of shotguns will give the cops the knoweldge beforehand that there will be other factors to consider.

The problem with this theory, as explained to me by actual cops, is that no matter what the registery tells them about the person or house they're going to, they have to treat every call as though there could be weapons involved.

Well, the registry removes the unknown. Better to go to a place expecting the worst because you know its there as opposed to expecting the worst because you're wondering if its there.

[Zipperfish]

FieryVulpine FieryVulpine:

Huh, where did I say I was speaking for the West? Perhaps it was implied so that was error on my part so I will clarify and add this disclaimer: that is my MY opinion and does not reflect the consensus of western Canada in any way shape or form.

Oh, and to resort to name calling? That is the [sarcasm]hallmark of maturity.[/sarcasm] Not that I'm innocent of it, nor am I proud of it, but still...

You strongly implied you were in favour of the west seceding and I called you a "separatist." I hardly think that's name calling, FieryVulva.

[Gunnair]

[FieryVulpine]

Brenda Brenda:

You have to register your car, your RV, you have wear a helmet on a bicycle, you cannot smoke indoors or in a Vancouver park, but everybody should be able to freely own a gun?
The logic escapes me...

The more I look at the issue, the more I come to believe it's not so much the rationale behind the registry as it is the symbolism of it. The LGR the the anti-registry side is just another layer of government bureaucracy that encroaches on the individual. The fact that the call for the registry picked up momentum after the massacre at L'Ecole Polytechnique, which many feel demonized gun owners doesn't help either.

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

You strongly implied you were in favour of the west seceding and I called you a "separatist." I hardly think that's name calling, FieryVulva.

How drole, did you ever consider a career in comedy? And are you here Thursday nights?