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We don't need corporations for it, but how else is an open source programmer supposed to pay his mortgage? If a corporation wants some piece of open source software to do something that it currently does not do, they pay someone to make it do that. The GPL license ensures that the change is available to everyone, not just the corporation. Without the corporations to pay the bills, there is only the hobbyists left. Open Source would continue without the corporations, but not at the same rate of exponential growth that it does now.

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Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Dude... There wouldn't be a mortgage... No bills, no need to pay for food, no need to squeeze every last possible penny out of a job you would like to love for your survival. You get you have your cake and eat it too.

If someone wants something done DO IT. Cause what's stopping you? No need for any money middle man.

This is the idea someone always presents to me:

Person A has an idea
Person A has the tools and ability to satisfy the idea
Person A won't earn money from the idea
Thankfully Person A doesn't need money to fulfill his idea or for his own survival
Person A decides not to work on his idea, even though it's an advancement he'd like to see and he has no obligations or limitations in completing the idea

Why would you NOT do something you wanted to see happen?

Why not? Both of us could be out feeding the poor right now.

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Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

You have that kind of money? Cool, go for it. (It won't solve the problem but whatever.)

You can't do anything in capitalism without mulla!

Freedom is half price today only, hurry down because it's a one day sale

I'm sure there's a local soup kitchen looking for volunteers.

Look at something like OLPC.

One Laptop per Child



Where do they get money from?

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Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

EDIT: You edited your post and added a video, this post doesn't address that yet

Holy shit, capitalism is solving the world's problems?

Wait, it isn't? It's just a single group doing only so much to solve some of the bitter symptoms of our world?

1 standard for a part of the world, another for the rest.

Anyway, they're $35 computers are given to Education centres to be passed out to the students - so the kids don't pay. It's a neat program and these people are doing what they can to help the people most ruined by capitalism. Great.

It ALL still costs money! It's all not that simple! This little project had to be perfected and worked on like crazy for years, especially making it cheap enough to make it easier to actually get it. Just to give kids in poor countries cheap versions of our computers. These 'little improvements' are lovely, just lovely, if you think this is all we're capable of.

More can be done.

Very sorry about the edit, I had meant to include it with the post, and only realized it wasn't there when I re-read it.

It has been meticulously worked on for years.

OLPC

$1:

At the 2006 World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, the United Nations Development Program (UNDP) announced it would back the laptop. UNDP released a statement saying they would work with OLPC to deliver "technology and resources to targeted schools in the least developed countries"

When a corporation launches a lawsuit for a patent, they sue the user. When a copyright holder launches a lawsuit, they sue the person who infringed on the copyright. Why?

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Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

All these people could have food, clothes, homes, and better computers. But instead the processes don't allow for things to move like that in capitalism, so we end up with these HARD-FOUGHT bits and pieces of advancement. Should we celebrate them? Yeah, for managing to accomplish this with how the world turns today.

That's Part 2:

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Curtman Curtman:

When a corporation launches a lawsuit for a patent, they sue the user. When a copyright holder launches a lawsuit, they sue the person who infringed on the copyright. Why?

I'm not sure why you're asking me this... Do you want me to tell you that copyright holders are trying to 'protect their intellectual property' so they can make a profit off of it and survive in their menial capitalist lives?

They do it cause of moneeeeeeey

I was just trying to get the topic back on track, and ask your opinion. And, basically, "yeah" on the question, except for the menial lives part. If you write some software, you should be able to grant a license to use the source code in whatever manner you see fit, and it is protected by copyright law. Software patents are something else.

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Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Why do these things like 'licenses' and 'patents' exist?

So people don't steal ideas and profit off them at your expense, right? So ideas can be kept 'as one own' (Even if you hire other people to work on it) even though you're packaging it on a disc and sending it into every home. And also to make a living.

What if there was no incentive to blindly take something except out of pure interest in it? And what if there was no possible way for a person to profit off it? What if all the risks of theft were gone because you can't steal a free balloon? Then what's the purpose of patents and these bloody restrictions? Only to stop others from getting their fingers on it and altering it for their purposes and reasons.

"Whatever manner you see fit" Like what? If you aren't sharing it with the world, keep it on your computer. It's 'safe' there.

Copyright exists to encourage people to create. Just like a patent should. An implementation of an idea is what copyright is.

To put the analogy to music, Michael Jackson's "Bad" is protected by copyright. Weird Al" Yankovic's "Fat" is legal. MJ's estate can't sue for patent infringement on the idea.

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Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

"An implementation of an idea is what copyright is."

You are doing some Jedi mind tricks or something here...

Copyright limits people's access to information and their ability to alter or improve things without persecution. How does copyright actually GET PEOPLE OUT THERE making stuff? Copyright is a disclaimer, it's a relinquishing of your rights (if you aren't the copyright holder).

I don't know what's so encouraging about a ©

No Jedi tricks. Patent law on mathematics is much more nefarious than copyright law. This ruling against Google has nothing to do with copyright. Google is guilty of using software that commits thought crime. (In the United States)

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