[Newsbot]

Title: Germany shutting down seven nuclear reactors
Category: World
Posted By: stemmer
Date: 2011-03-15 08:10:46

[BRAH]

The fear mongering begins thanks to the media.

[Brenda]

$1:

A survey by public broadcaster ARD published on Tuesday had 53 percent of respondents saying all reactors - which produce a quarter of Germany's power - should be taken out of service as soon as possible.

I don't want to be a bitch or something, but what would you do when they really do that, and you will be the one without power?
If there was another way to create that 25% or the national needed power, THEY WOULD HAVE DONE IT!!

$1:

Seventy percent thought that an accident similar to that in Japan could happen in Germany, and 80 percent want Merkel to reverse the government's extension of operating times, the poll of 909 voters showed.

Sure, there is a HUGE chance of an earthquake this strong, and a Tsunami happening in Germany

[mikewood86]

70% of Germans think that what happened in Japan can happen in Germany? Probably, cause you know, Germany is on such a huge fault line.

Did they also know that in 14,000 cumilative years of nuclear operation there has only been two major accidents? I would like to think coal fired plants have had a more drastic effect on world health and the environment than nuclear reactors have.

[martin14]

Brenda Brenda:

$1:

Seventy percent thought that an accident similar to that in Japan could happen in Germany, and 80 percent want Merkel to reverse the government's extension of operating times, the poll of 909 voters showed.

Sure, there is a HUGE chance of an earthquake this strong, and a Tsunami happening in Germany

Yes, stupid kneejerk reaction by a bunch of pansies as a result of protests
by gangs of incredibly stupid people.


I would love to know where the Germans think that power shortfall will be made up.

Libyan oil ?

Russian gas ?

Their own unwashed green farts ?


Or, I dunno, maybe the Euros would be happy with rolling blackouts that the
Japanese have now.
That will put Germany around the level of Georgia.. or Azerbijan.

[PostFactum]

They made it temporary for checking. But working few monthes on reservs - I can't understand.

[PostFactum]

martin14 martin14:

Brenda Brenda:

$1:

Seventy percent thought that an accident similar to that in Japan could happen in Germany, and 80 percent want Merkel to reverse the government's extension of operating times, the poll of 909 voters showed.

Sure, there is a HUGE chance of an earthquake this strong, and a Tsunami happening in Germany

Yes, stupid kneejerk reaction by a bunch of pansies as a result of protests
by gangs of incredibly stupid people.


I would love to know where the Germans think that power shortfall will be made up.

Libyan oil ?

Russian gas ?

Their own unwashed green farts ?


Or, I dunno, maybe the Euros would be happy with rolling blackouts that the
Japanese have now.
That will put Germany around the level of Georgia.. or Azerbijan.

Italy is the most problematic EU electricity state. Prepare man

[BartSimpson]

If Germany wants to strangle their economy that's their choice.

[martin14]

PostFactum PostFactum:

Italy is the most problematic EU electricity state. Prepare man

Meh, they bought the 4 reactors in Slovakia, and haven't managed to
completely fuck them up yet.

Besides, France and the wonderful EDF isnt far away.

[andyt]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

If Germany wants to strangle their economy that's their choice.

And yet you're the one buying iodide pills.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

mikewood86 mikewood86:

70% of Germans think that what happened in Japan can happen in Germany? Probably, cause you know, Germany is on such a huge fault line.

Did they also know that in 14,000 cumilative years of nuclear operation there has only been two major accidents? I would like to think coal fired plants have had a more drastic effect on world health and the environment than nuclear reactors have.

Did you know that since Chenobyl there have been 57 accidents of varying degrees of seriousness? If you look at what the US Fed uses to define major, it's any accident that involves any loss of life or more than $50,000 in property damage. There have been 99 such incidents from 1952 til 2009.
The real kick in the ass is, the US accounts for two thirds of that total.
And since 1961, there have been 19 accidents worldwide that have caused multiple deaths and/or more than $100 million in property damage. That $100 million isn't total damages for those 19 accidents either.

The good news is, despite the number of accidents, the death toll has been quite low, considering.

[Scape]

Good riddance! These plants should have been turned fallow years ago and have no business being operational. The design is obsolete and there is no point keeping inefficient plants online. If there is a silver lining from this disaster it is that it gave the impetus to deal with this problem once and for all and bite the bullet. The issue is not that we need to ditch nuclear options but that we need power plants that have much better standards then ones that were drawn up 60 years ago when the technology was in their infancy.

[andyt]

Scape Scape:

Good riddance! If there is a silver lining from this disaster it is that it gave the impetus to deal with this problem once and for all and bite the bullet. The issue is not that we need to ditch nuclear options but that we need power plants that have much better standards then ones that were drawn up 60 years ago when the technology was in their infancy.

I'm not holding my breath.

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

If Germany wants to strangle their economy that's their choice.

And yet you're the one buying iodide pills.

Yes, I did. Because prevailing winds may well send a plume of crap my way. Worst case scenario for me with this is the pills gather dust. If I need them the $35 I spent buying them before the shelves were cleared was a cheap investment.

But Germany shutting down their plants because of the thing in Japan is pure alarmism.

[Scape]

No it isn't these were supposed to be shut down already 5 years ago. It was a hail mary that they got them extended last year. Something Merkel will regret. We don't need another Chernobyl do we? Beyond turning off the safeties and conducting experiments on reactor 4 what really caused that plant to blow was the fact it was over tasked and was never designed to be operational as long as it was. That intentional degradation of design lead to tragedy and the German plants are also well past that point. They do more harm then good being online now and the downsides are catastrophic.