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<strong>Title: </strong> <a href="/link.php?id=8999" target="_blank">Fredericton motorists angered by ‘disgusting’ abortion photos</a> (click to view)

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<strong>Posted By: </strong> <a href="/modules.php?name=Your_Account&op=userinfo&username=-Mario-" target="_blank">-Mario-</a>
<strong>Date: </strong> 2006-07-18 05:35:35

[figfarmer]

Kinda reminds me of some campaign that they had on the TTC back in the early eighties. I never did look at the poster long enough to figure out which bunch of saps was looking for my cash, but it was a picture of a newborn with a bunch of tubes and crap in it and the caption, LIFE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS" or something like that. When you were hung over it was damn near enough to make you barf. People should show a little class when hanging posters. If I wanna look at crap like that I'll check out rotten.com

[BartSimpson]

I've never figured out why some people get so "offended" by pictures of aborted children.

These are the same people who advocate abortion so wouldn't you think they'd WANT those pictures to be in the public domain so everyone could see their handiwork?

If abortion is such a wondeful thing then why are you people so ashamed of it, I wonder?

It's real easy to go marching with a bunch of militant lesbians protesting for an abstract 'right' and then it's another thing to be confronted with the baby who was torn from his mother's womb but not before first being dismembered alive.

No wonder women who have abortions have a higher than average suicide rate. Despite all of the blather and bullshit from the abortion advocates these women still know in their hearts that it's wrong to kill their own children.

Anyone who advocates abortion should have to face up to what it is they're supporting and they should have to look at those pictures.

No different than that our resident Nazis on this site should have to look at this:

[Hardy]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I've never figured out why some people get so "offended" by pictures of aborted children.

Same reason people don't want to see high-rez, colour closeups of surgery, injuries, or various unsightly medical conditions.

It has nothing to do with conscience. It has everything to do with being totally f***ing grossed out.

[BartSimpson]

Hardy Hardy:

It has everything to do with being totally f***ing grossed out.

They should be grossed out if they support this.

The principle here is no different than that of anti-war protesters who show unflattering pictures of battlefields and combat casualties.

The people who advocate war should also have to face the ugliness and violence inherent in war.

Likewise, if anyone should support abortion then they, too, should have to face the ugliness and violence inherent in abortion.

[Mosleyite]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I've never figured out why some people get so "offended" by pictures of aborted children.

These are the same people who advocate abortion so wouldn't you think they'd WANT those pictures to be in the public domain so everyone could see their handiwork?

If abortion is such a wondeful thing then why are you people so ashamed of it, I wonder?

It's real easy to go marching with a bunch of militant lesbians protesting for an abstract 'right' and then it's another thing to be confronted with the baby who was torn from his mother's womb but not before first being dismembered alive.

No wonder women who have abortions have a higher than average suicide rate. Despite all of the blather and bullshit from the abortion advocates these women still know in their hearts that it's wrong to kill their own children.

Anyone who advocates abortion should have to face up to what it is they're supporting and they should have to look at those pictures.

38.3% of women undergoing abortions have already have had one or more - that is to say, roughly 100 of Canada's daily 300 abortions (Canadian Institute for Health Information). We damn well have the social infrastructure to "save people from their conditions", so people should be confronted with the results of what they advocate until they figure out what its about.

Furthermore, if you spend so much as a week on a college of university campus, you're going to be faced with the fact (zomg, a fact!) that these abortions are not all born out of (excuse the pun) abusive situations involving rape, abuse, or pressure.

As for the Nazi thing...whatever self-proclaimed Nazis there may be on this site are a damned ways off from the NS German brand from back in the day. Any modern neo-nazi would have been wiped away in Germany like the worst of the Brown-Shirts were when the NSDP consolidated its political power. Nobody likes punks who can't get their swastikas to point in the right direction.

[Hardy]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Likewise, if anyone should support abortion then they, too, should have to face the ugliness and violence inherent in abortion.

It's nothing to do with violence. It's just gross and disgusting, and nobody wants to see it.

It's more like if people picketed outside of schools when parents were coming to pick up their kids, with pictures of extreme outbreaks of herpes, captioned "Here's what happens when kids don't learn to use condoms."

Believe me, I could come up with plenty of pics to prove my point, but I'd rather not offend virtually every person who looks at this thread.

[Blue_Nose]

Guess what else is ugly and disgusting? Open heart surgery; we should force people to watch an operation before they go under the knife.

[MrMarch]

The protestors are just using shock value to scare people. Would the average person want to see the "truth" of triple bypass surgery on their morning drive to work? Probably not, but you don't see protestors publically posting pictures of triple bypass surgery operations because it's a gross operation.

[MrMarch]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

The principle here is no different than that of anti-war protesters who show unflattering pictures of battlefields and combat casualties.

The people who advocate war should also have to face the ugliness and violence inherent in war.

Likewise, if anyone should support abortion then they, too, should have to face the ugliness and violence inherent in abortion.

Hahaha. I wonder, should the people of our country be shown the results of their choice to send soldiers to fight in other countries? Should we subject our Prime Minister to the splattered corpses of the people our military kills? I mean, we support the action so we should have to face the ugliness of it daily, on the way to work, when we pick up the kids from school. "Oh look dear, here's the people mommy and daddy helped slaughter in Afghanistan"

[grainfedprairieboy]

Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:

Guess what else is ugly and disgusting? Open heart surgery; we should force people to watch an operation before they go under the knife.

They generally are. In all cases of serious surgery the doctors provide as much info as possible to the patient and family, particularly when the patient has to make a decision. Further, I don't think a day goes by TLC doesn't broadcast some surgical procedure or a birth or something else I don't care to watch. However, I can turn away, change channels etc. This is a freedom of speech issue. I don't like the PETA people but hey, if they want to pay for and erect billboards of animals that have been slaughtered or been used for experimental purposes they not only exercise that right, but few complain.

Bart: Your two posts on this topic are excellent.

Anyways, if you don't like it start with MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) who have some pretty graphic posters, are people who have by and large experienced the loss of a loved one who resembles the mangled corpses in their campaigns and seem to receive very little flak. The freedoms that allow MADD to exist are the same exercised by this group.

[grainfedprairieboy]

MrMarch MrMarch:

Hahaha. I wonder, should the people of our country be shown the results of their choice to send soldiers to fight in other countries? Should we subject our Prime Minister to the splattered corpses of the people our military kills? I mean, we support the action so we should have to face the ugliness of it daily, on the way to work, when we pick up the kids from school. "Oh look dear, here's the people mommy and daddy helped slaughter in Afghanistan"

Sure. Freedom baby, that's what it is all about. For 3000 bucks you to can buy a billboard and post all the anti war anti Harper stuff you desire.

[Arctic_Menace]

$1:

These are the same people who advocate abortion so wouldn't you think they'd WANT those pictures to be in the public domain so everyone could see their handiwork?

If abortion is such a wondeful thing then why are you people so ashamed of it, I wonder?

$1:

No different than that our resident Nazis on this site should have to look at this:

You have left me speechless, with the utter sewage that is spewing from your mouth...

[Mosleyite]

The world is full of things that are gross and ugly. I know, I used to associate with many a liberal.

Anyway, the moral component is whats at point here. Surgery is a medical practice and involved informed consent. Since the subject is the only subject of moral consideration, they are able to make the decision, take the risks, and meld their chest cavity with history's uglier moments.

Abortion and war actually involve other people. I can't sign off an informed consent document for the people of a country being invaded. If I am to kill, I may as well be faced with the ugly truth of the affair.

As for STD's and schools, this too is more similar to the issue of surgery. Most people have unprotected sex by choice. There are risks they are taking. Hence, it seems to me, the ugly pictures outside of school would be wrong as long as there is a public education that informs the population effectively.

[Arctic_Menace]

$1:

No wonder women who have abortions have a higher than average suicide rate. Despite all of the blather and bullshit from the abortion advocates these women still know in their hearts that it's wrong to kill their own children.

Can you prove this?